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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:37pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6301
of 6310) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The Russians seem to think that they're dealing with powerful,
merciless, deeply corrupt monsters, who have much in common with the
Nazis.
Looking at much of the behavior of this administration - I find
it hard not to sympathize with the question. We should check
some things -- to find out if there is a problem here -- and fix it.
In the cause of peace, in the cause of American values, and in
the cause of common decency, as that idea is broadly shared all over
the world.
An accounting of military expenditures, capable of picking up
massive fraud, can be done. Going back thirty years or more. So can
an accounting of how a few conspicuous right wing angels came by
their money.
We should find these things out.
Maybe nobody gets convicted -- but if the crimes have been
committed -- the values of the United States depend on finding this
out.
This is a question that should be discussable in America -- if it
is not -- then America has lost a great deal.
rshowalter
- 05:06pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6302
of 6310) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Russia Open to ABM Changes, Top General Says By REUTERS
MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia is open to changes to
the 1972 ABM treaty, which bans a missile defense system planned
by the United States, news agencies quoted a top Russian general
as saying on Friday. http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/world/international-arms-ru.html
General Says Russia Willing to Talk by THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS
MOSCOW (AP) -- A top general said Russia is
willing to discuss how to ward off missile threats that worry the
United States -- but will insist on sticking to the 1972
Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty that bans nationwide missile
defense, the ITAR-Tass news agency reported Friday. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/world/AP-Russia-US-Defense.html
Flexibility within an interdependent context.
gisterme
- 05:21pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6303
of 6310)
rshowalter wrote: ( rshowalter
6/29/01 5:06pm ) "...Flexibility within an interdependent
context..."
Does that come as a surprise to you, Robert?
rshowalter
- 05:24pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6304
of 6310) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
No.
applez101
- 05:55pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6305
of 6310)
Rshowalter -
"How much of our military function -- has been based on fraud."
This is a nonsequitor you know; almost by definition, military
development and build-up outside of an actual war is naturally
fraudulent!
lunarchick
- 06:06pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6306
of 6310) lunarchick@www.com
Fraud, conflict of interest, Nazi methodology ...
rshowalter
- 06:11pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6307
of 6310) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Maybe just a pattern that seems that way, but has another
explanation. But a great deal fits -- enough, I believe, that some
things should be checked.
I bet soldiers would be glad for that. And people who care
seriously about the Republican party, too.
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