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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 01:33pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6290
of 6294) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
It seems to me that almarst , our stand in, and the
Russians themselves, are going to have to find a workable way to
admit that these are partly interdependent but largely decoupled
questions, for a solution to be possible. If the request is for the
US to have a much smaller force, in the immediate future -- that is
Russia asking the US for the impossible.
And the US government must consider these questions as well, it
seems to me.
. . .
After World War II demobilization happened quickly, but pretty
naturally, too -- because people had more attractive alternatives
outside the military. For large reductions in American forces to
happen now, something like that has to happen again.
gisterme
- 01:52pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6291
of 6294)
rshowalter wrote: "...And the Cold War ... hasn't ended yet..."
Can't agree with your statement that the Cold War isn't over,
Robert. It's true that we're still dealing with the reverberations
of that idiologial/economic cataclysm but they're just
reverberations. The more time that goes by, the weaker they will
get. Once the root causes or "forces of excitation" have been
removed; all that reverberations can do is decay.
As the Russian and other ex-Soviet economies gather way the
living standards in those places should improve to levels similar to
the rest of Europe and the US. It seems much easier to look toward a
bright future from within a robust, bustling economy than from
within a flaccid one. Time, plentiful natural resources, good
management and hard work should produce robust economies in those
places.
The occasional glace at the rear-view mirror is an important part
of driving; but without mostly looking at the road ahead driving
would be suicidal. Said differently, removing the rear-view mirrors
might make driving less safe; but painting-over the windshield would
make driving forward impossible. Point is, that the need to look
ahead is far more important than the need to look back if one wants
to move ahead. I suppose you'd would want to look in the rear-view
all the time only if you want to go back to where you've come from.
The Cold War is over. I, for one, don't want to go back...'don't
miss it a bit.
rshowalter
- 02:22pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6292
of 6294) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You're right. We want to go forward.
And we want RUSSIA to go forward, too.
That means Russia can't be paralyzed by lies (many of its own
making) that keep it from correcting mistakes, as it now, to some
degree, still is. Though Putin is making some of those things
better.
And Russia can't be paralyzed by fear. Which, to a significant
degree, it is. Sometimes reasonable fear, but other times, I think,
not so reasonable.
Neither can we be paralyzed by lies, and fears.
I think, gisterme, that we might agree that the best
measure of the amount of work we have to do cleaning up the past --
is how that work is justified by the hopes it makes possible for the
future.
I don't think the amount of work needed to get the future squared
away is insurmountable, or even so difficult -- but I do feel it has
to be done.
In ways that work for America, and for Russia, and for other
countries, too.
rshowalter
- 02:24pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6293
of 6294) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We don't have to "make a big thing" of the past, so much --
necessarily -- but we need to know the past, to make decisions
that work for the future.
Because, for information, the past is often all we have to go on.
rshowalter
- 02:28pm Jun 29, 2001 EST (#6294
of 6294) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Once, when the Cold War was at its ugliest --- there was an
interesting piece of "displacement behavior" -- that might be worth
thinking about -- John F. Kennedy's "race to the moon."
Not that we need another race -- but I do think that space is an
area where US - Russian competition has had some positive aspects --
which continue.
And I also think that Kennedy was partly making his decision to
give his military-industrial complex something more constructive,
and less dangerous, than they might otherwise do.
And, in some significant ways, it worked.
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