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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:00pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6071
of 6076) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD5551rshowalter
6/20/01 1:59pm .... MD5552 rshowalter
6/20/01 1:59pm
almarst-2001
- 05:03pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6072
of 6076)
On mistakes.
The stand opposing the Dirac and Gisterme, assumes that most of
the people of this planet are non agressive and do not inherently
criminal.
It is my believe the rulling elite of many nations uses the
conflicts and criminal agressions to promote their own personal
interests and the interests of their clique. And they are using all
sorts of ideology, including religion, to inflame the hatered. And
the less the ordinary people know the declared "enemy", the easier
it is to do. And the futher away those "enemies" live - the less
they are known. In this respect - the almost universal lack of
knowlege and interest in the foreign afairs and history and culture
of other nations - the US presents a particularelly fertile ground
for such a behavier.
I can accept it is my mistake to see it this way. If I am wrong,
we can expect an unprovoked suicidal missile attack. And, as such,
from ANY direction.
But equally Dirac and the Gisterme should at least try to present
the coherent phylosophy supporting their point of view, calculate
the chance of their mistake and assume some responsibility for the
probable result.
rshowalter
- 05:14pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6073
of 6076) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
That seems fair -- and sometimes -- it takes some bookeeping --
even some umpiring. Particularly a listing of what is asserted, and
how the assertion is supported.
If, too often, the support for assertions is simply
"because we say so -- and you can't check us"
that is a problem.
rshowalter
- 05:17pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6074
of 6076) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
For instance, there were some very well formed and balanced
questions set out by US Senators in
Skeptical Senators Question Rumsfeld on Missile Defense By
JAMES DAO http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/politics/22MILI.html
Is there an obligation for clear, and sufficiently
followed-up answers to these questions?
Now, I think the answer is no.
The answer, I believe, should be yes.
rshowalter
- 05:22pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6075
of 6076) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD6062 rshowalter
6/26/01 3:48pm ..... reads in part:
Q: is there any objection to checking what the capabilities of
equipment in the open literature are? -- Checking so that we can say
-- on a clearly traceable basis
. If the DOD classified labs are to do this thing
-- within the framework of what they've publicly disclosed -- then
they have to deal with these specific, specifiable
problems.
If that is permissable -- then discussions of the credibility of
classified claims can be done, in a free society -- and in a way
such that -- when questions of fraud reasonably arise, they can be
dealt with.
These claims need to be dealt with, after so many questions have
been raised about the sanity and motivation of missile defense.
rshowalter
- 05:25pm Jun 26, 2001 EST (#6076
of 6076) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The core problems of misinformation -- and bad, predatory
decisions that come from that -- are problems all over the world. We
can deal with them, a piece at a time, if we remember that people
have to solve their own problems, and, to have a decent chance of
doing so, they have to make decisions on the basis of things that
are true.
MD6020 rshowalter
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