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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 03:05pm Jun 25, 2001 EST (#6001
of 6023) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Similar questions about resolution of parts, and resolution of
signals, and vibration, and "undesired motion" , and calibration,
and stackups of errors in SYSTEMS of components that have to be put
together -- occur again and again with reference to these systems.
The missile defense people have been so far from reality, for so
long, and so often rewarded, emotionally and financially, for
avoiding fundamental facts, or awkward details, that the engineering
firms involved have become corrupted.
Everybody's told so many lies, to themselves and to others, that
it is difficult indeed to put coherent project decisions together.
In addition, it is difficult to find anyone to say "no" to
military officers and public offials as forceful and determined as
Rumsfeld.
So nobody checks anybody else about anything much - and projects
go slam-banging on to disaster -- for decades.
The scram-jet project, ongoing for forty years - is like
that. It has a fundamental problem -- the combination of super
and hypersonic aerodynamic constraints, and fuel air mixing
constraints, make it impossible to build a working system, nothing
close to enough fuel can be burned per unit flow. Almost anyone,
with technical knowledge of turbine design, would see the
intractability of the problem -- and people have -- but the project
has kept pegging along for forty years.
Money flows should be audited, with respect to missile defense
efforts but technical decision making should be audited, too.
I can't draw any conclusion but a simple one. There is a great
deal of fraud here, at many levels. Nothing else makes sense.
rshowalter
- 03:06pm Jun 25, 2001 EST (#6002
of 6023) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
great ! reading.
remember the motivation to soft-pedal that the writers of the
report are likely to have. Still, the fact is, the military has a
lot of brave and capable people in it.
gisterme
- 03:10pm Jun 25, 2001 EST (#6003
of 6023)
rshowalter
6/24/01 6:46am
rshowlater wrote: "...When it matters enough, checking should be
morally forcing..."
You still don't say what you mean by "morally forcing", Robert.
I suppose the "moral force" would be applied by goon squads
banging on doors in the middle of the night...just like in nazi
Germany, the USSR and communist China.
rshowalter
- 03:17pm Jun 25, 2001 EST (#6004
of 6023) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
gisterme , nice to see you paying attention.
let me post DAO's fine article, and get back to you with
references.
Are you suggesting that there is no obligation to check things --
that, even when mistakes can do great damage -- it is better for
people to stand in the way of checking.
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