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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:02am Jun 24, 2001 EST (#5919
of 5923) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
What Weaver asks for sound impractical to me, at least in large
part. I feel that The New York Times , and some other first
line papers, do take the responsiblilities of citizenship seriously
- in part. . . The culture of news, though it may involve the
possibility of lying -- carries too much truth to be subverted in
all the ways Weaver suggests (all the time).
" . . The "culture" he describes - which was put into place, and
functining well, by 1915 - is not set up for the new global
realities -- it is not well defended against the internet, and other
information technologies. There are new opportunities -- if people
are willing to send in clear.
Gorbachev was right that "openness" is crucial. There are
socio-technical challenges associated with openness -- but they are
challenges before us, that carry important opportunities.
The CIA was built by people who knew well how to conceal
EVERYTHING important in ways that made them impregnible to the
journalistic usages Weaver describes.
The military-industrial complex that was well evolved by World
War II, and that Eisenhower did so much to advance, but then warned
against in FAREWELL ADDRESS of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
January 17, 1961. was highly evolved to evade any compromise of
function according to journalistic usages as Weaver describes them.
And remains so.
The defenses of these institutions, however, are far less
formidible than they used to be. The information "lied about" is
mostly not fully concealed -- it is simply made available in forms
that Weaver's "culture of journalism" cannot digest. Now, this
information is available, and with some new sociotechnical usages
that are now fully possible, can be brought to bear in the cause of
truth.
It can happen in clear, and in full view of anyone who wishes to
look or participate in an open way.
MD1298 rshowalter
3/22/01 10:04am
lunarchick
- 07:07am Jun 24, 2001 EST (#5920
of 5923) lunarchick@www.com
On journalism and journalists ...
watching the journalists watching Bwsh they critique his
performance like 'theatre' critics
w e i r d w e i r d w e i r d stuff
Why can't the public judge his performance Why do they
have to be told what to think
rshowalter
- 07:12am Jun 24, 2001 EST (#5921
of 5923) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The distrust of the press in the US is so great that sometimes,
they do think for themselves. Polls may be showing that people are
reading through some of the bias of the news.
That bias, in America, can be grotesque.
In the PBS TV show " Washington Week in Review " , this
comment struck me. Referring to Bush's trip, a panelist said
" we covered it like a triumph."
Obviously, that coverage was incomplete and in some ways grossly
biased, and it sounded to me like the panelist knew it.
The American people know it, too.
The media would be more valuable if people trusted it more
-- it would be worth dollars and cents (in the billions) to improve
the credibility of the news.
rshowalter
- 07:16am Jun 24, 2001 EST (#5922
of 5923) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
One issue seems pretty clear to me, at the level of tactics.
Press organizations ought to defend each other when the
government muscles them, in formal and informal ways. Or when
advertisers muscle them in ways that would not stand the light of
day.
Now, for the most part, they don't.
That disorganization and cowardice is expensive -- not only
morally, but, I think, financially, too.
If people stop listening to the news, they lose interest in the
ads, too.
rshowalter
- 07:34am Jun 24, 2001 EST (#5923
of 5923) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD5752 rshowalter
6/22/01 9:37am .... MD5763 rshowalter
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6/22/01 9:39am .... MD5765 lunarchick
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6/22/01 5:01pm .... MD5811 lunarchick
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MD5822 rshowalter
6/22/01 6:00pm
" . . .
"The American media is very afraid -- and for some
good reasons. You can't blame the people too much - but you
CAN blame the system, and change it.
MD5915 rshowalter
6/24/01 6:46am
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