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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:07pm Jun 23, 2001 EST (#5897
of 5899) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD4643 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:00am reads:
After MD3353 rshowalter
5/6/01 10:55am .... MD3354 rshowalter
5/6/01 10:56am and a short comment from gisterme ,
almarstel_2001 reappeared, after an absence.
almarstel_2001 , this forum's "Vladimr Putin stand-in" has
made the following postings since that time. If a person samples the
many posts in these linked directories, at random, I think that
person would be impressed at the intellectual quality, and the
quantity, of almarstel_2001's attention to this thread.
MD4644 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:15am . . here are the DIRECTORIES of almarstel's
numerous and distinguished postings set out in Cast of characters
-- a "PUTIN STAND-IN" -- almarstel2001 (1-9)
Directory-linked lists of distinguished efforts, usually long
postings, sometimes interesting references, by almarst_2001:
MD4645 http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?14@184.YfYcaXLfqqt^2221872@.f0ce57b/4961...
MD4646 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:20am MD4647 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:20am ... MD4648 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:21am MD4649 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:22am ... MD4650 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:22am
And a change-clarification in negotiating position in MD4651 rshowalter
6/9/01 7:32am
There's been much work since.
Dialog by almarst indicates what statements by Putin also
indicate -- that issues of military balance are of great concern - -
that Russia does not trust the benevolence of the United States, for
reasons almarst states, with solid supporting reasons,
again and again.
almarst , isn't necessarily, and in every way, against
anti-missile technology. He's against grossly disproportionate
military balances, and dangerous concealment of information flows,
that, in his view, threaten the security of Russia.
rshowalter
- 04:08pm Jun 23, 2001 EST (#5898
of 5899) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Other nations, almarst says, have similar concerns, and
looking at almarst's arguments and supporting references, it
is hard not to believe that.
rshowalter
- 04:16pm Jun 23, 2001 EST (#5899
of 5899) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
One way of getting a sense of those concerns, in my view, is to
search "gisterme" and read what he says, in context, from the
top. gisterme surely wants nukes down, as I do and as
almarst does, too.
But gisterme shows an agressiveness, and an indifference
to human suffering or death, when that suffering or dying involves
human beings who are not Americans.
Sometimes, that suffering doesn't seem to count at all, nor any
ordinary morality either, so long as the people involved can be
classified as "enemies" -- in "war" -- according to a logic that, in
Friedman's phrase, can make Machiavelli seem like one of the
Sisters of Mercy.
That attitude , which does still characterize a great deal
about US military policy, now as in the past -- is the primary
impediment to military accomodations, nuclear and otherwise,
including missile defense.
Adress the concerns almarst raises, and a deal on missile
defense (if it were really needed) would be relatively easy to
strike.
With those concerns not effectively adressed, there is impasse,
and we are heading into a new arms race.
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