Forums

toolbar



 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  /

    Missile Defense

Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


Earliest MessagesPrevious MessagesRecent MessagesOutline (5855 previous messages)

lunarchick - 07:43pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5856 of 5871)
lunarchick@www.com

GI : Kissinger-Pinochet meeting ( 2 Nazi's headbutting) .. is cited above, obviously written by an American .. we in Australia thought that Monica had a great intellect - i'd say easily in advance, regarding mental ability, of many at the Whitehouse - even today!

On the Chilean paper .. before reading i'd want to know who authored it, when it was written, where they were coming from with regards to their political viewpoint, i'd ask 'does the author have anything to hide', does the author want to spread a particular kind of propaganda .. and i'd think of the divisions in Chile where the people in the Pinochet camp think, and still do, that's it's alright to steal children and put them with 'new to them parents'.

Chilea hasn't had a truth commission, hasn't looked at history for what it really is, and the country is standing on the shaky foundations of deception and lies - that half the people still don't acknowledge.

Now i'll read the article ...

rshowalter - 07:44pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5857 of 5871) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

It has everything to do with the problems that make BMD so problematic.

And everything to do with questions of how a program that seems so misshapen and fraudulent through and through keeps being pushed.

If it isn't corruption or craziness - - what is it -- don't tell me a secret plan -- not enough people believe that.

rshowalter - 07:48pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5858 of 5871) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD5750 rshowalter 6/22/01 9:19am

The questions in Skeptical Senators Question Rumsfeld on Missile Defense by JAMES DAO http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/politics/22MILI.html

are so serious, and so surreal when everything is considered, that questions of administration insanity or gross fraud are difficult to avoid, it seems to me. Questions about fraud become essential to ask.

rshowalter - 07:49pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5859 of 5871) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

And the linkages between the Nazis and the Bushes are deep, and seem to have been sustained.

(Search NAZI in this thread - start tracing references -- there's a lot out there.)

Wrong? Maybe.

But it should be checked -- because given the mess we're seeing -- the connection makes sense.

lunarchick - 07:50pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5860 of 5871)
lunarchick@www.com

NCPA - José Piñera On Privatizing Social Security José Piñera on Social Security Portland, Oregon -- June 18, 1996. José Piñera On Privatizing Social Security. Portland, Oregon -- June 18, 1996. ... ~ www.ncpa.org/video/other/jpinera.html

The bolded words are juxtaposed :)

lunarchick - 07:50pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5861 of 5871)
lunarchick@www.com

José Piñera ... was presumably from the Pinochet camp .. certainly not an independent Journalist!

lunarchick - 07:52pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5862 of 5871)
lunarchick@www.com

'Elaborate - and successful - steps were taken to obscure the gravesite, with hundreds of horses used to trample the ground above the tomb.' steps were taken to obscure a cover up

gisterme - 07:53pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5863 of 5871)

Showater, lunarchick and (I think) possumdag,

There's got to be some reason that you are wanting to maximize the number of posts on this list. Otherwise you, possumdag and Robert wouldn't break up what should be single posts into a bunch of "one liners".

Maybe there's some statistical hocus-pocus ahead. Is somebody working on a thesis that intends to use the ratio of "pro" and "con" posts on this forum to make some point about public opinion WRT the BMD issue? So you three work full-time to be sure that the data comes out in your favor? Posts is posts, eventhough they don't say anything? That wouldn't surprise me. Nothing else makes much sense. Is this a CONSPIRACY? Why don't you just clear that up? I am sincerely curious and you haven't answered when asked before, Robert.

Why so many teeny-weenie posts that just quote stuff that's often not even realted to the topic?

Why Robert's earlier comments about his gladness and the number of posts? Why does Robert care about how many ring binders the printout of this forum will fill?

rshowalter 5/1/01 4:11pm

"...By the way, since Jan 21, I've filled six 1 1/2" loose leaf notebooks with the content of this thread -- and am now starting my seventh..."

How many notebooks now, Robert? Are you going for 10,000 posts? This conspiracy theory stuff is kind of fun isn't it?

lunarchick - 07:54pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5864 of 5871)
lunarchick@www.com

Hows the TV show 'That's my Bush' going down with Americans ... the actor playing Bwsh is darn good!

gisterme - 07:55pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5865 of 5871)

lunarchick wrote: "...Robert is 'mainstream', which he certainly is..."

It only seems that way to you, lunarchick because you're "out there" right next to Robert.

More Messages Unread Messages Recent Messages (6 following messages)

 Read Subscriptions  Subscribe  Search  Post Message
 Email to Sysop  Your Preferences

 [F] New York Times on the Web Forums  / Science  / Missile Defense







Home | Site Index | Site Search | Forums | Archives | Shopping

News | Business | International | National | New York Region | NYT Front Page | Obituaries | Politics | Quick News | Sports | Science | Technology/Internet | Weather
Editorial | Op-Ed

Features | Arts | Automobiles | Books | Cartoons | Crossword | Games | Job Market | Living | Magazine | Real Estate | Travel | Week in Review

Help/Feedback | Classifieds | Services | New York Today

Copyright 2001 The New York Times Company