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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?

lunarchick - 04:57pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5809 of 5814)
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GI said (above):

Sounds like you're using "George Johnson" as a scapegoat, Robert. Nobody on this thread has EVER posted as George Johnson since I've been aboard

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gisterme - 01:10pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5788 of 5805)

Lou Mazza aka LouMazza

All the BS that lead up to that is another reason I like monikers, Lou. :-)

The meanness in some people seems to remain submerged if they don't know where to find you. If they think they do, they try to use that to imply a threat: "Big brother knows where you are!". That's really pitiful behavior...it reveals a weakness of character. Wouldn't that kind of stuff be much more troubling if we Americans lost our personal right to bear arms? For me it would.

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The point Showalter seems to be making is this:

George Johnson - a psudo science journalist/journalist - set himself up to appear to be a legitimate Journalist (and journalists have a code of professional ethics) working at the New York Times.

George Johnson was formerly a 'host' of certain threads on this paper (the NYT has a code of ethics).

George Johnson is now on this thread - on a more or less full time basis - fooling around under a string of monikers ..

George Johnson it could be assumed is probably being paid (by C..I.A ?) to make his multi-monikered inputs.

George Johnson seems to have debased himself with regards to the behaviour one would expect from a Journalist. It has to be argued that he has tried to 'drag down' the reputation of The NYT.

There's a disparity between the distinguished inputs to the times by people such as Howell Raines(editor-in-Chief:Sept 2001) and Freidman; versus the goonery of Johnson.

But then, the C..I.A is a Nazi organisation - is it, it certainly seems to be !?

On dogging people, George Johnson has dogged Showalter for years - in a dark macabre fashion.

Showalter has work that needs 'checking' and accepting into the world knowledge pool. Showalter's work can have applications that will benefit everyone - worldwide.

GI: whereas Showalter is a humanitarian working for improved international understanding and a better world for all players ... i don't really know who you are, or why Johnson behaves like a goon, or what your long term visions are GI.. One can only assume that you are Representative of The Republicans ..... - that's the partly loosing favour with the average American voter ?!

rshowalter - 05:01pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5810 of 5814)
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

This is no joke, historically, some of my best friends have been republicans.

But if the Republican party doesn't clean up its act, it deserves to go the way of the Whigs.

lunarchick - 05:09pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5811 of 5814)
lunarchick@www.com

Interesting how elsewhere parties move in and as their focus becomes redundant, are superceeded by new parties targeted on aspects of policy that better fit the NEEDS of a nation.

Implies there must be 'renewal' under the labels of Republican-Democrat.

Begs the question - is the Fifth-Estate (C..I.A) running out of control on a huge budget. Is an audit done on their budget .. or is it another mystery-murky area of American Non-a/c-ing.

gisterme - 05:12pm Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5812 of 5814)

rshowalter wrote: "gisterme , have you read the references collected in Britannica's KISSINGER ON TRIAL piece?"

I haven't, Robert. I don't see what the old cold-warrior has to do with BMD.

Allegations come cheap as do references to "recently unclassified" (but not identified or published) documents. If Mr. Kissinger is proven guilty of some crime, then so be it. Likewise with Mr. Milosevic.

In the context of this BMD thread all those links (that probably amount to a LOT of reading) seem like a huge amount of unrelated stuff about people who haven't been in power for decades and were only in power during the Cold War period. Of course, the objectivity of those "Guardian" links is always questionable. I've quit bothering with them because in my view the Guardian is just a propaganda rag. I also avoid links that lead into people's personal computers.

As you know, I DO object to using 20-20 hindsight to judge wartime acts by peacetime standards.

If Mr. Kissenger worries you so much you should try to get another forum about that started. LOL. If you do that, you should be fair about including Cold Warriors from both sides.

Don't forget that all the Chile stuff (and the like) was probably an attempt to use tactics similar to what the Soviets did with Castro to prevent another Soviet puppet rising up in the western hemisphere. I don't doubt that the US mood was "better to install our own dictator than to let them install theirs" after the Cuba debacle. Cubans are still suffering and (fortunately) Chileains are not. Containment was a consistent NATO policy throughout the Cold War.

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