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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 09:33am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5761
of 5770) lunarchick@www.com
The EU doesn't ask jailers to KILL it's OWN citizens ... it's in
advance of the USA !
rshowalter
- 09:37am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5762
of 5770) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Brutality and lies are related here, and this thread has
discussed lies, and "the culture of lying" in journalism,
extensively with almarst.
Lies, and not just lies that make life more dramatic, such as
those Morris describes today in Just Our Imaginations, Running
Away are an issue.
Just Our Imaginations, Running Away by EDMUND MORRIS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/opinion/22MORR.html
Lies that make life much more dangerous and ugly are an issue.
rshowalter
- 09:38am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5763
of 5770) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And behavior is an issue. Here's a letter to the editor worth
repeating in full here, I believe:
June 18, 2001 Nominee's Defense Honduran Past Stalls Bush
Pick for U.N. (June 14, 2001) To the Editor:
Re "Central America Fallout Stalls U.N. Pick"
(front page, June 14): Defenders of John D. Negroponte, President
Bush's nominee to be ambassador to the United Nations, assert that
when he was ambassador to Honduras in the 1980's, he had to
balance concerns with human rights with the struggle against
"Communism" (really nationalist regimes that threatened America's
traditional oligarchical allies).
" It is precisely this attitude — in which
larger ideals are subordinated to narrow policy concerns — that
has made the United States seem such a dubious defender of human
rights to the world. STEVEN SHERMAN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/18/opinion/L18HOND.html
Thomas Friedman has recently commented on the merciless of
some US policy, according to Kissingerian principles, and that is a
central issue on this thread.
rshowalter
- 09:39am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5764
of 5770) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
My computer is under attack, and these attacks, recently, have
sometimes been serious -- including the destruction of files.
Out for a little while.
lunarchick
- 09:49am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5765
of 5770) lunarchick@www.com
Seems the USA must employ a bunch of delinquents, using dirty
tricks, to harass citizens working for improved international
understanding .. shows an obvious lack of genuine leadership on the
part of this President - Bush!
lunarchick
- 10:56am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5766
of 5770) lunarchick@www.com
Russia
MD May2000
lunarchick
- 10:59am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5767
of 5770) lunarchick@www.com
Russia
remembers Nazi invasion
lunarchick
- 11:01am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5768
of 5770) lunarchick@www.com
EU-USA/Letter
rshowalter
- 11:21am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5769
of 5770) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD2039 almarst-2001
4/6/01 10:53am
almarst-2001
4/6/01 10:53am ...quoted an article that dealt with Negroponte,
who President Bush wants to represent the US on human rights
as Ambassador the the United Nations.
Not everyone appreciates all the motives involved. MD 2812 withington2
4/30/01 1:27pm
rshowalter
- 11:21am Jun 22, 2001 EST (#5770
of 5770) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A key focus on this thread has been this sort of concern, and
other concerns about changed circumstances -- because these concerns
are at the center of our difficulties involving missile defense, and
the "need" for it. MD2813 rshowalter
4/30/01 1:27pm
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