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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 08:03pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5587 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

I think the impasses can be gotten through, and then objectives that gisterme and I share entirely, and almarst shares, too, could be achieved.

But gisterme , if that occurs, I'd use the word "accomodation."

rshowalter - 08:07pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5588 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD 5575 ndpnyt 6/20/01 7:01pm interested me. Talked about linkage.

Putin, pretty obviously, believes in linkage. He thinks things have to be interdependent.

lunarchick - 08:34pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5589 of 5636)
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Just musing here Showalter ... but .. when Bush/Putin walked in the garden .. i wonder if they both wore wires ... so they could get transcripts of what they actually said to each other :)

rshowalter - 08:37pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5590 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

In a better world, in meetings between leaders, it would be expected -- and they'd exchange recordings, to be sure that nobody missed anything.

Clear's safer !

rshowalter - 08:38pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5591 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD5548 rshowalter 6/20/01 1:17pm ... MD5549 rshowalter 6/20/01 1:18pm

MD5550 almarst-2001 6/20/01 1:45pm
I found almarst's expression of Putin's position really interesting.

MD5551 rshowalter 6/20/01 1:58pm . . . MD5552 rshowalter 6/20/01 1:59pm
I don't think we'd be far from a deal, if the Bush administration led the American people to accomodations Americans would be glad and proud to make.

lunarchick - 08:39pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5592 of 5636)
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accommodation n 1: making or becoming suitable; adjusting to circumstances [syn: adjustment, fitting] 2: a settlement of differences; "they reached an accommodation with Japan" 3: in the theories of Jean Piaget: the modification of internal representations in order to accommodate a changing knowledge of reality

rshowalter - 08:40pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5593 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

I bet progressive forces in Iran, and N. Korea, and China, and Iraq would be glad to talk about accomodations -- especially if, in some cases, the US did not take the lead -- perhaps let Sweden, Germany, and Russia do it.

rshowalter - 08:46pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5594 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Good accomodations are well proportioned to circumstances, and the needs of the parties involved.

lunarchick - 09:02pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5595 of 5636)
lunarchick@www.com

I hear there's a problem with the US and the Swedish camp ... Bwsh didn't send the Swedes the expected "Thank you for hosting" call ... reason ?

Reason we hear was the Bwsh camp overheard that PM's CLEAR frank assessment of Bwsh -- who was touchy about it!

rshowalter - 09:02pm Jun 20, 2001 EST (#5596 of 5636) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

MD 2334 rshowalter 4/17/01 8:13pm

In "Beauty" http://www.everreader.com/beauty.htm Mark Anderson quotes Heisenberg's definition of beauty in the exact sciences:

" beauty is the proper conformity of the parts to one another and to the whole."

Good theory is an attempt to produce this kind of beauty in a specific context of assumption and data.

Goodness can be judged in terms of that context, and also the fit with contexts that, for logical reasons, have to fit together.

______

MD2452 rshowalter 4/20/01 10:36pm

gisterme , the administration does seem to be trying to improve on the mess Clinton did not much change:
MD2455 rshowalter 4/20/01 10:43pm

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