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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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possumdag
- 10:29pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5498
of 5506) Possumdag@excite.com
USA & ISRAEL :
That Israel has behaved so terribly in the Middle East region is
seen, by many, to have the direct hand of approval of the USA
Government.
How do things work in the USA. Can a lobby, a rich lobby,
determine USA policy regardless of the NEEDS of others in the Middle
EAST ?
Where: The current Prime Minister of Israel is seen
internationally as A War Criminal!
possumdag
- 10:33pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5499
of 5506) Possumdag@excite.com
The above posts ask the question how can the individual
enfranchised voter in the USA effect foreign strategic policy ...
Are the policies used the 'will' of the people - generally?
If the regular foreign policy of the USA falls short, as it
does, and has done. Then in respect of an MD policy .. how can the
people of the world view the USA as a country capable of exercising
power.
possumdag
- 10:34pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5500
of 5506) Possumdag@excite.com
Hard to believe that Jimmy Carter wanted arms to be used to
subdue the march of humaine progress.
possumdag
- 10:35pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5501
of 5506) Possumdag@excite.com
This being so, how was his foreign policy constructed and run ?
almarst-2001
- 11:11pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5502
of 5506)
gisterme
6/19/01 7:01pm
While the question was put to Robert, I will try to unswer since
that was one of my major points of criticizm raised a long time ago.
gisterme asks: "What has the US done in Kosovo and Yugoslavia
that is illegal in UN terms? "
According to International Law it is only up to the UN Security
Council and only unanimously, to authorise the military action
against a souveren state. Which, if taken, should be conducted by
the UN military forces under the UN command.
No such authorisation was issued. The US and its NATO "partners"
acted unilaterally. which in terms of International Law should
constitute the act of agression. Simple as that.
Moreover, NATO reneged its own charter which authorised its
action only in case of agression against one of its members. No such
agression took place. The US-led NATO broked its own law and became
an agressor.
Additionally, the US-NATO forces extensivly used clustered bombs
outlawed by international laws of war, as well as toxic DU munition,
bordering if not crossing the prohibition of use of chemical
wearpons.
The targeting of civilian and even dual-use infrastructure is
prohibited even by the US military law. It was done extensivly
against Serbian civilian infrastructure which was destroyed by some
70%. Including schools, hospitals, bridges and water and power
stations.
I "Isn't Milosevic the one who's heading to the docket for war
crimes?"
Milosevic is far from being an angel. However, even today, there
is no evidence of his authorisation of what US claimed the
"genocide" (which never took place even after the bombing started.
However, Milosovic was "convicted" just after the beginning of the
bombing compain. Based solelly on the "evidence" provided by CIA and
the Pentagon - the infamous "fields of death" pictures from US
satelites. Interestingly (but not to US media) enough, those found
to be a fiction. If, as I suspect, those where fabricated, this
would constitute the most dreadful crime against humanity after the
Polish "attack" on German border in WWII which Hitler used as an
excuse for agression on the East.
"Isn't it contradictory to say that a consortium of nations
(plural) like NATO has acted "unilaterally" there."
Indeed, I have no single explanation for that. It may be a some
of many. I may speculate for the possible reasons for US
(legitimisation of NATO after the end of the Cold War), Italy
(influx of Albanian mafia), Germany (same as Italy plus economical
expansion Eastward) and Britain (same as US). Additionally, the new
NATO member - the Hungary, pressed very hard for destruction of
Yugoslavia, particularelly the Serbia - its forever Slavic nemesis
separating it from the rest of Catolic Europe. Don't forget the
strategic importance of Danube, the proposed oil pipes, the link to
the NATO's member - the Turkey.
However, this "consortium" represents a minor part of the World
of nations. It just an NATO-based extention of US into the Europe.
Which where promised to get the victory in 3 days over what US State
Dep. and the US media declared the "new reincarnation of the
Hitler".
One should recall the "infamous" Rambuliette which appendix "A"
provided for the NATO occupation of all Yugoslavia. I challenge
anyone to come up with anything closer to the Hitler's ultimatum to
the Chechoslovakia. It is also useful to recall the CIA-KLA ties and
support of KLA by US Albanian diaspora and its political influence.
It is the ultimate shame that US and British pilots (possibly the
sones of saved by Serbs pilots of WWII) joined hands with Germany
and Italy in this criminal act. In their place I would not have a
good sleep.
"You may not have noticed but the Russians and NATO seem to be
on the same side now that the Albanians are the ones causing the
problems in Macedonia."
The US-led NATO looked the other way while KLA "took revenge" on
S
almarst-2001
- 11:15pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5503
of 5506)
gisterme
6/19/01 7:01pm
Cont.
"You may not have noticed but the Russians and NATO seem to be
on the same side now that the Albanians are the ones causing the
problems in Macedonia."
The US-led NATO looked the other way while KLA "took revenge" on
Serbs, Roma, Jews and even moderate or honest Albanians in Kosovo
after the occupation. Some 300000 Kosovo refugies, including
Albanians, live today in Serbia proper - the only peaceful
multhiethnic territory of what used to be Yugoslavia. More then 2000
civilian death where recorded after the NATO occupation. The
occupation agreement called for disarmament of KLA which 30000 NATO
troups whare unable or rather unwilling to do. Even after the end of
the bombing, the US/NATO breached the last agreement it signed with
Yugoslavia under the UN authorisation.
IIsn't it enough for you?
possumdag
- 11:23pm Jun 19, 2001 EST (#5504
of 5506) Possumdag@excite.com
Togetherness-Foreverness
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