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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 12:55am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5315
of 5339)
gisterme
6/15/01 12:44pm
gisterme:
"rshowalter wrote: "...I think the stakes involved on nuclear
weapons issues are AS HIGH AS THEY COULD POSSIBLY BE..."
Couldn't agree more, Robert. I think the same."
One can recall that nuclear weapons where percieved in US as an
ultimate guarantor of invencibility and domination. It was designed
to eliminate any hope in war against US. Thus, eliminating the
chance of war and the NEED of war by the US. Who would even
contemplate fighting or resisting the nation armed with such a
wearpon?
Should I remind you How long such an illusion stayed and in WHAT
KIND OF THE WORLD resulted? Aren't we eager to pay dearly to
ELIMINATE this spreading danger?
Now, the SAME ROLE is assumed to NMD! Coupled with militarisation
of Space and overhelming US Conventional Forces spread all over the
places and ready to strike anytime anywere on Earth. Smartly and
Humanitarily, for sure;)
I only wonder, How dearly will we all pay for this one, trying to
turn the clock back and eliminate the results of this "achievement"?
lunarchick
- 01:18am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5316
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
:)
almarst-2001
- 01:25am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5317
of 5339)
gisterme
6/15/01 5:56pm
"Under the MAD paradigm the risk of keeping strategic nuclear
weapons MUST be assumed to be less than the risk of NOT keeping
them. To me that doesn't make much more sense than the overall MAD
concept in this post cold-war/empire era, but there it is. "
Tell it to all nations bombed, sunctioned and treatened by US in
the last 10 years. Their "risk asessement" might be quite different.
For as long as US will be percieved as a military tread, the
agressor ready to bomb the independent non-aggresive nations even
against the rules of International Law and UN for no other reason
but some obscurely defined "national interests" or even more
bisarely and shamefuly visible double-standard "humanitarian"
concerns or attempts to establish "US-Friendly" or
"Western-Oriented" or "Business-Friendly" or "Open and Democratic"
Government and society.
How could the parents of 97 Serbian children believe it? Or
parents of half a million Iraqi children believe it?
What kind of redemption and assurance can US provide to change
this?
lunarchick
- 01:26am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5318
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
+
Proverbs29:2
lunarchick
- 01:40am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5319
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
lunarchick
- 01:45am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5320
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
Alex said
For as long as US will be percieved as a military tread,
the agressor ready to bomb the independent non-aggresive nations
even against the rules of International Law and UN for no other
reason but some obscurely defined "national interests" or even
more bisarely and shamefuly visible double-standard "humanitarian"
concerns or attempts to establish "US-Friendly" or
"Western-Oriented" or "Business-Friendly" or "Open and Democratic"
Government and society.
almarst-2001
- 01:47am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5321
of 5339)
lunarchick
6/15/01 8:17pm
"the missiles are UNSTABLE, that they need to COME DOWN, that
the COLD WAR will only actually CLOSE when they do."
The Cold War started without missiles. And it may end only when
there is NO MORE INTEREST in one.
Today, the CIA-Pentagon-Defence industry and some other parties
interested in promoting their interests under the bunners I have
listed above, seems to be convinced their "golden opportunity" of
rulling the Glob have arrived. The Cold War or the Hot War - does
not matter.
lunarchick
- 01:51am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5322
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
Others perceive that the
USA is a threat to world peace In part because the
USA is seen not to have moral standards ... the standards waver ...
the standards may be an afterthought, a justification.
There is a real worry to the world here.
The USA has to move back to training the military to act as a
peace force, on the ground, with the people.
Rather than, take decisions
'to bomb everybody eles in the world at the drop of a hat'
The domestic political interests of a USA second term of
government can not be 'foreign policy'.
lunarchick
- 01:57am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5323
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
Alex says
Today, the CIA-Pentagon-Defence industry and some other
parties interested in promoting their interests under the banners
I have listed above, seems to be convinced their "golden
opportunity" of ruling the Globe have arrived. The Cold War or the
Hot War - does not matter. Banners one assumes imply
'self-interest' 'greed' 'private profits' 'defelection of budget
towards a soft-accounting slush-zone'
lunarchick
- 02:00am Jun 18, 2001 EST (#5324
of 5339) lunarchick@www.com
What do the 100,000 USA people stationed in Europe do at the
moment ... just curious here .. presumably if the USA spends
massive amounts on defence it is necessary to employ and deploy
people.
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