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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 11:12am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5270
of 5281) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
An individual can often be deflected from logical closure on any
subject - no matter how much evidence there may be -- by distraction
and emotional attack.
It is much harder with staffs.
Which is why, all over the world, and for thousands of years,
staffs have been essential.
With the internet, staffs can be stronger, and have a better
chance of getting to truth, and the background needed for good
accomodations.
rshowalter
6/16/01 9:48am
lunarchick
- 11:15am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5271
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
Checking the Pakistan daily newspaper 'dawn', or was it the bbc,
i noted that India and Pakistan will be having friendly talks ... a
chance to reduce missile threats?
lunarchick
- 11:23am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5272
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
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lunarchick
- 11:30am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5273
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
http://www.g2mil.com/May2001.htm
http://www.g2mil.com/Navy%20NMD%20Scam.htm
lunarchick
- 11:32am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5274
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
'The Navy, two powerful shipyards, and their paid front
men in Congress, have no qualms about lying to the American
people.
lunarchick
- 11:35am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5275
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
China
rshowalter
- 11:35am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5276
of 5281) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The "rogue nations" that are motivating the Bush administration's
administrative blitz on missile defense seem to be losing their
crazy-threatening character. That can be said of North Korea, of
Iran, and to some extent of Iraq.
Back when I studied Nazi propaganda seriously, I was fascinated
by how carefully the German population was taught to "identify"
"jewish traits." -- There was essentially no validity at all to what
people were being motivated to acknowledge -- it was a malevolent
replay of " the emeror's new clothes" -- in Menken's terms
"as devoid of merit as a herringfish is of fur" but that
deceptive campaign was an essential part of the mass murder the
Nazis carried out.
Perhaps the motivations of the Bush administration with respect
to "Star Wars" are entirely different -- and entirely unrelated.
But based on what I've read and heard, the analogy between the
tactics, and the arguments, seems striking.
One analogy is here -- people are being catagorized and demonized
on the basis of amazingly sparse evidence.
This is one of the reasons, among many, why staffs can be
important -- they can filter out deception that can overwhelm
individuals - especially motivated ones.
I'm a motivated individual -- and of course I can be wrong.
The Bush supporters can be, too.
Things can be checked.
lunarchick
- 11:46am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5277
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
Interesting that the general population of Iran are 93% for
normalisation of their country back to democracy with regular-ish
dress and customs. A small clique of clericks still hold power ...
even thought the majority of people are for modernisation and
rational development.
Interesting how a small clique (anywhere) can stem the flow of
the will of the people - for a time.
lunarchick
- 11:52am Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5278
of 5281) lunarchick@www.com
Bwsh/Putin
rshowalter
- 12:04pm Jun 16, 2001 EST (#5279
of 5281) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Good so far! Perhaps we have reasonable human bases for peace and
accomodation. Especially if we check facts, and do not make
unreasonable mistakes.
The web is not very actively checked for accuracy, so some may
question whether this site represents credible data and
reasonable interpretation.
I believe that it may, and that people who know how selection
processes in organizations occur in the United States may find the
information here, in its interconnections, worth considering when
the issue of unconditional trust of the Bush administration arises.
George W Bush went Awol and he is still getting away with
it. http://awol.gq.nu/
Staffs can check things of this nature, in a way individuals
cannot, when they choose to do so.
With the questions that have been raised about the sanity
and honesty of the present US missile defense initiative, I
feel that the issue may merit attention. I found it interesting, and
possibly helpful, if a view of circumstances that accounts for all
the credible data on human survival is to be crafted.
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