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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 03:37pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5212
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
A key thing, trying to make contact across a barrier, is to get a
sense of the questions:
How is this beautiful to you?
and
How is this ugly to you?
The big point is not for people to convert each other -- though
some mutual sympathy, at the emotional level, may be important.
The big point is for people to know enough so that they
can satisfy each other's basic needs in negotiation - so that they
can fashion complex cooperations that are durable.
rshowalter
- 03:41pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5213
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
For instance, Russians and Americans are always going to look
ugly to each other in some essential ways (by no means all, but
some).
There's no changing that - nor reason to want to change it,
particularly.
There's reason to understand it.
For example, a mathematical engineer has to talk to Russians and
Americans differently -- or it used to be that way -- because the
patterns of thought are really different.
For example, Americans are much more likely to talk of "degrees
of freedom" -- Russians about "constraints."
(For a lot of problems, I happen to like the Russian way better.)
rshowalter
- 03:43pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5214
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And if you have to get compatible definitions -- both ways
-- it can take some talking.
rshowalter
- 03:47pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5215
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Have you ever looked at a full transcript of a jury trial? A LOT
of words. When things are in doubt, people need that.
The internet helps. Once facts are agreed to in common, by
a matching process -- then negotiation is possible.
But if the facts are agreed, and the objective relations are
agreed -- that doesn't make a deal -- it only makes a deal
possible.
Russians and Americans could be exactly agreed about all "the
facts" and "the relations" -- but then they'd have to come to
agreements by negotiation. The point is, with everybody "reading
from the same page" workable, durable deals can be struck. People
know what they're signing, and therefore have a good chance of
living up to their agreements --and a good chance of being willing
to.
rshowalter
- 03:50pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5216
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
People of much lower rank --even no rank at all -- can do a lot
of the focusing -- the pre-digesting -- so that definitions and
objective relationships are clear. And the internet can help with
these clarification and definition processes.
That's a staff function.
The dealmaking itself has to be done by people with the authority
to do it. The internet will help very little, or very much less,
there.
rshowalter
- 03:52pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5217
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
But if "everybody's reading from the same page" redemptive
solutions, that work for all concerned, and are fair on balance,
really can be fashioned. Good dealmakers make them all the time --
or we'd all be a lot poorer than they are.
Russians and Americans have to learn to come to such solutions,
where they have to interact.
rshowalter
- 04:04pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5218
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
rshowalter
6/15/01 7:51am and posts immediately following seem like they
might connect to the limited things that might be discussed
tomorrow.
rshowalter
- 04:16pm Jun 15, 2001 EST (#5219
of 5245) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
( gisterme also liked those posts, based on New York
Times op ed pieces today.)
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