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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 07:22am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4650
of 4655) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Distinguished efforts, usually long postings, sometimes
interesting references, by almarst_2001
MD4504 almarst-2001
6/4/01 11:14pm ... MD4505 almarst-2001
6/4/01 11:14pm MD4510 almarst-2001
6/5/01 6:39am ... MD4512 almarst-2001
6/5/01 11:00am MD4513 almarst-2001
6/5/01 11:01am ... MD4517 almarst-2001
6/5/01 3:44pm MD4520 almarst-2001
6/5/01 6:27pm ...
rshowalter
- 07:32am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4651
of 4655) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
MD4517 almarst-2001
6/5/01 3:44pm seems to me especially important, both because of
the clear point of hope it presents, and the serious
problems, worthy of human respect, that it enunciates, and that I
sympathize with.
almarst quotes from MD4516 rshowalter
6/5/01 1:31pm
" the stance of the Russians has changed. --
They are still interested in total -- or at least near total
nuclear disarmament -- but nuclear disarmament, and changes in
nuclear balances, must depend on stability and safety for Russia
and nations Russia cares about -- in terms of military balances as
a whole, including weapons systems and information flows."
"Robert, I was talking from myself only. This position seems
reasonable to me."
_____
But almast goes on to set out important human and
practical concerns, as follows:
"After the Iraq and particularelly Yugoslavia, I . . . . will
be the last person on this planet to trust the US Government.
Morover, I deeply dispise what they did, how it was presented by the
media and by observing the mostly indifferent or even excited public
at large.
rshowalter
- 07:35am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4652
of 4655) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
This is a reasonable position, which Americans, like it or not,
should come to understand.
And it is a position that, it seems to me, may be becoming more
and more reasonable as the Bush administration turns away, so
forcefully, from the patterns on which reasonable trust
between nation states must be reasonably based.
The Bush administration is now going to visit leaders of our
allies in Europe, and to visit Vladimir Putin -- in a way that deals
contemptiously with these great and busy people.
rshowalter
- 07:37am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4653
of 4655) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Bush Trip Aimed at Winning Over Europeans by JANE PERLEZ
and FRANK BRUNI http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/09/world/09PREX.html
WASHINGTON, June 8 — President Bush will carry few specific
proposals when he embarks on his first major overseas trip on
Monday, hoping instead that face-to-face encounters will win over
Europeans skeptical of his policies and abilities.
"The common European perception is of a shallow, arrogant, gun-
loving, abortion-hating, Christian fundamentalist Texan buffoon,"
said a senior administration official. "They read all the press
about a hard-line unilateralist. They really believe this stuff
about cowboys. We need to get it all on a higher plane."
Though Mr. Bush and his aides say they are aware of Europe's
disagreements with the administration on a range of issues —
including the death penalty and the environment — they have been
depicting these as problems that could be overcome by the
president's charm and personality — as happened, experts note, with
President Ronald Reagan nearly two decades ago.
Mr. Bush arrived tonight at his ranch in Crawford, Tex., where he
will spend the weekend receiving briefings from his national
security adviser, Condoleezza Rice. The briefings are intended to
ensure that the president, who has seldom traveled abroad, will be
ready to transform himself into a player on the world stage.
(more)
rshowalter
- 07:40am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4654
of 4655) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The busy and important leaders of great nations deserve straight
answers, on specifics, and the avoidance of lies and evasions.
Consider the golden rule . You are a busy executive.
Meeting with another world leader, especially the President of the
United States, is a lot of trouble, and involves some political
capital. The President of the United States comes without any
specifics, but assures you that, though he will be "friendly" at the
level of remarkably empty and superficial ceremony -- at the level
of substance he will keep you in the dark in the ways that matter,
and violate any and all of your basic interests if he chooses.
ghstwrtrx2
- 08:50am Jun 9, 2001 EST (#4655
of 4655) There are two kinds of Christians. Those that accept
their faith as a gift, and those who wield it as a weapon.
I have read that antiballistic missiles are akin to trying to hit
a BB, with another BB from a mile away.
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