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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 06:53am May 15, 2001 EST (#3896 of 3901) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

lucky085a 5/15/01 6:45am

leungki 5/15/01 4:06am

One thing the Bush administration seems to be doing. It is giving the whole world a sense of the fallibility and the narrowness of sympathy of the United States.

Whatever else one may say, there are elements of good in that - unthinking deference to the US has caused plenty of problems -- and the world may be getting more sensible about that issue.

Let's hope that neither the Bush administration, nor anyone else, makes mistakes that kill us all. Or mistakes that waste too many chances.

Let's hope that the Bush administration can avoid predatory behavior, as well.

lunarchick - 06:58am May 15, 2001 EST (#3897 of 3901)
lunarchick@www.com

would this, as told to me, be true

Titanium: Russia had high grade, pure titanium. It's said it didn't make it through from the cold war to the Nineties ... appropriated by a former Russian Leader and his cronies. If so, putting oneself first, is an advanced Russian art.

lucky085a - 07:03am May 15, 2001 EST (#3898 of 3901)
Baby Bush stole the presidency fair and square.

"Let's hope that neither the Bush administration, nor anyone else, makes mistakes that kill us all"

With this joker in charge, the liklihood is great that mistakes will be made.

rshowalter - 07:15am May 15, 2001 EST (#3899 of 3901) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

Thought experiment.

Suppose that, within the United Nations (which is a human group full of informal and ad hoc organizations) there was an " organization of un-american activities" including a "committee of the whole, minus one" --every nation but the United States.

Would there be things to talk about?

If such an "ad hoc" organization knit together, and took intelligent action, how effective could it be?

Is the world really helpless before U.S. power? Isn't it unhealthy that countries seem to think so?

Suppose that the US had ALL the military power that it now seems to be hoping for (at the level of explicit planning.) Suppose nobody trusts the good will of the US at all, about anything.

These are just assumptions -- and sometimes, a little thinking about far fetched assumptions can clarify things -- give a sense of risks, hopes, possibilities, and the brute complexity of what is being considered.

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    NOW, on these assumptions, and assuming intelligent and disciplined action by all concerned, in their own interest:

    How much "unilateral power" would the US actually have, under these assumed circumstances?

    How safe and independent would she be?

    How safe would the world, and nation states in the world, be?

    My answers, just thinking about the questions a little, are, respectively: "not much" .... "not very, unless she thought of the interests of others" ... and "pretty safe."

    rshowalter - 07:21am May 15, 2001 EST (#3900 of 3901) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    We ought to be able to do better than these assumptions -- which involve an enormous amount of waste by the United States, and a good deal of ugliness otherwise.

    Even so, it is worth considering that, even with misbehavior or narrowness or blindness on the part of the United States, the threats from the United States to the rest of the world -- even thinking of the US as the dark nation almarst thinks of, can be controlled.

    There is also, even on the basis of these (fairly pessimistic, and not that far fetched) assumptions, a great deal of common ground about nuclear weapons. We'd like to have the probability of death by nuclear explosion as small as possible, or nearly so.

    rshowalter - 07:28am May 15, 2001 EST (#3901 of 3901) Delete Message
    Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

    Signs in China and Taiwan of Making Money, Not War by CRAIG S. SMITH http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/15/world/15CHIN.html

    "Despite the visions of war conjured by President Bush's suggestion that the United States could help defend Taiwan from a Chinese invasion, the social and economic integration between the mainland and the island is stronger than ever, and growing.

    . . . . .

    "Taipei and Shanghai have exchanged visits by deputy mayors. And Taiwan's former prime minister, Vincent Siew, is currently in China to lobby for a common market between the mainland and Taiwan. He is the second vice chairman of Taiwan's main opposition party, the Nationalist Party, to set foot in China in less than six months.

    "In cross-strait relations, we are in something of a race between the forces of economic integration and political separation," said Mr. Schell. "Barring some really nasty bump in the road, I would bet on integration."

    Considering the history, it is easy to see the Chinese bitterness to Taiwan. Even so, some good accomodations are being made, among some not so good. Maybe, this time, the forces of good sense and peace will prevail.

    There and elsewhere.

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