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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:28pm May 14, 2001 EST (#3836
of 3844) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We aren't angels - and the past is as ugly as it is. But the
worst doesn't always happen, and a lot of times, people manage to
work things out fairly well.
After time, conversation, clarification, and accomodation, the
proposal I made on September 25 still looks like a good solution to
me, or at least a suggestion that might be considered as people
search for a good solution. 266: rshowalt
9/25/00 7:32am ... 267: rshowalt
9/25/00 7:33am 268: rshowalt
9/25/00 7:35am I feel the approach has ceremonial and
artistic aspects that should be universally understandable, by
people of all ages, that fit the case.
In this situation, that's a plus.
The key good thing about the suggestion, I feel, is that it
assumes distrust , and works on the basis of that fact, not
asking nation states to risk their survival, under circumstances of
stark terror, on the fiction of "trust."
I think that a person who actually looked at Rehearsing
Doomsday http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2000/democracy/nuclear/stories/nukes/index.html
might find the need to acknowledge distrust especially compelling.
We need to make peace. The risks of nuclear distruction have to
be much, much less than they now are. We have to do the best we can
as the human animals we are, here and now.
lucky085a
- 12:44pm May 14, 2001 EST (#3837
of 3844) Baby Bush stole the presidency fair and square.
"The risks of nuclear distruction have to be much, much less than
they now ar"
Unfortunately, Bush's agenda can only make things much worse. He
is increasing world instability by refusing to cooperate with anyone
- a sure road to world crisis somewhere down the pike.
rshowalter
- 12:49pm May 14, 2001 EST (#3838
of 3844) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You never can tell, in the middle of negotiations, exactly
what a guy might be doing -- especially among "negotiating
lawyers" like Clinton, and some republicans, as well.
But I must say, right now, on the surface, it looks like he's
"refusing to cooperate."
But if the world gets a bit organized, that might change.
almarst-2001
- 12:52pm May 14, 2001 EST (#3839
of 3844)
Robert,
As I mentioned before, the nuclear wearpons and the MAD
deterrance may be the only hope of any country not ready to submit
to US or being treated like Yugoslavia or Iraq.
Do you have any dought the Moscow would be bombed just like
Belgrad a long time ago, if not for the MAD?
What assurances can anyone have in a current state of the
conventional ballance of power and the way, the Washington politics
works?
rshowalter
- 12:58pm May 14, 2001 EST (#3840
of 3844) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You need, and under current conditions, can readily fashion,
effective non-nuclear deterrants -- especially if countries band
together (for this purpose, against the US) to set and enforce some
rules.
In the ways that have to matter, you shouldn't be asked to
"trust" -- and you raise absolutely valid points.
But I think, with a little coordination and international action
that can work, a balanced military situation that is
sustainable can be set up -- and that it would be in the
interest of all concerned -- emphatically including both Russia and
the United States.
Let me take an hour and organize some things.
One point's clear. It should be expensive to America when
the US military kills people --- especially when it kills "innocent
bystanders."
I don't think that would be hard to arrange, either.
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