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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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possumdag
- 09:18pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3809
of 3823) Possumdag@excite.com
Read the editorial NewScientist. There's a shift from rogue
Nations to there being an 'Outlaw in the Whitehouse' .. wonder if a
bounty hunter will clip clop into town ...
almarst-2001
- 10:53pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3810
of 3823)
rshowalter
5/13/01 8:26pm
I am not Russian, nor Serbian.
I am sure all nations have some dark pages of their history.
But never before in my life was I more disgussed and ashamed to
live in a country which is capable of such a behavier. My English is
just too poor to express my feelings. Its like a big brutal bully
hits the small child. And, after a bruised child submits, the bully
triumfantly stands before the public proud for not receiving even a
one punch back.
To this picture I would add the fact that the bully is a son of a
pilot saved some 50 years ago by the father of a child he just
punished.
As a matter of fact, the Yugoslavia was the only country openly
and consistently fighting the Nazis (by the way, Milosoviz's parents
where partisans), paying enormous price and putting their lives on
line while saving the US and British pilots. The only occupied
country staying against prosecution af the Jews. It was also the
only Eastern European country which remained independent from USSR
and even ready to fight Warsaw armies. They where THE country which
gave refuge to thousends of Chechs who flee in 1968. They always
looked to the West as an example.
What a shame.
almarst-2001
- 11:15pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3811
of 3823)
rshowalter
5/13/01 7:08pm
"Where other animals lose control and run -- humans lose
control, and fight."
So, the NATO lost control (out of fear I should assume?) and then
run and bomb the hundreds times weaker country for 78 days and
nights?
Robert, Do you have children? And, if you do, can you imagine
what it is like to hide your child for almost 3 month underground
and teach him to run and hide at a noise of an airplane? To explain
to him that he, his family, his friends, may become or already
became a "colateral damage"? The "colateral damage" for showing of,
the Belgrad TV was destroyed. TV station destroyed by the countries
which stated their purpose to defend the democtacy and freedom
(including the press) as mission.
That where I feel really terrible lacking the proper "printable"
words to express my feelings.
almarst-2001
- 11:28pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3812
of 3823)
In Yugoslavia the US may have won the fight but it lost the
remainder of its soul, its purpose and its reason to exist.
almarst-2001
- 11:34pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3813
of 3823)
The "new face" of America:
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almarst-2001
- 11:43pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3814
of 3823)
N.Korea Warns U.S. on Missile Plan - http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/international/ap195.htm
"North Korea also expressed anger at being called a rogue
state.
''In fact, the most dangerous and biggest rogue state is the
U.S. seeking to stifle legitimate, sovereign states by force,'' the
said.
"Last week, Seoul officials thanked visiting U.S. Deputy
Secretary of State Richard Armitage for explaining Washington's
plans for the missile defense system. But they were careful
not to take a stand on the issue."
Isn't it telling, the position of a South Korea which should be
most fearful of the North's missiles?
Does it take a genius to figure this out?
artemis130
- 11:48pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3815
of 3823) caveat venditor
possumdag - 09:18pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3809 of
3813) Possumdag@excite.com
Read the editorial NewScientist. There's a shift
from rogue Nations to there being an 'Outlaw in the Whitehouse' ..
wonder if a bounty hunter will clip clop into town ...
Who says Bush is out of touch? What's all this missile defense
about if not to head off any "bounty hunters" at the town limits.
Rumsfeld sits up late at night worrying that someday, some other
nation might decide to act like the U.S.
almarst-2001
- 11:56pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3816
of 3823)
artemis130
5/13/01 11:48pm - "Rumsfeld sits up late at night worrying
that someday, some other nation might decide to act like the
U.S."
How true.
It could be funny if not for being so terrible, shamefull and
disgusting.
artemis130
- 11:56pm May 13, 2001 EST (#3817
of 3823) caveat venditor
Isn't it telling, the position of a South Korea
which should be most fearful of the North's missiles?
I think it's far more telling that, of all the people who don't
support a grand BMD but you think, would - are the jewish democrats,
who have every incentive to want Israel effectively protected.
That's like offering water to a man who's been walking in the
desert for 10 days. He must think it's poisoned or something, to
refuse it.
artemis130
- 12:00am May 14, 2001 EST (#3818
of 3823) caveat venditor
So, the NATO lost control (out of fear I should
assume?) and then run and bomb the hundreds times weaker country
for 78 days and nights?
NATO didn't lose control. They managed to destroy 14 tanks and
when that didn't work, decided to kill 50-200 times as many
civilians.
No wonder the U.S. is such a feared nation.
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