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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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jla_117
- 01:47am May 9, 2001 EST (#3583
of 3596)
Does anybody in their right mind doubt for a minute that Bush's
militarization of space is intended to generate immense profits for
the industries involved in its production?
applez101
- 01:54am May 9, 2001 EST (#3584
of 3596)
artemis -
That's easy: Canada has the advantage of acting within a US
military umbrella, so can afford getting by with first-generation
F-18s, indigenous GM armored cars, and modified M-16s (related more
to original Armalite design). Why buy an Osprey when an Otter will
do?
Finally, with less than half the amount of people in the UK,
Canada doesn't really have all that spare cash lying about ... so
has to make do with what it's got. Hence Special Forces seizures of
hired naval lift of Canadian armaments during a contractual dispute
as we saw last year (which, iirc, represented 10 or 20% of all
Canadian armor).
vival5
- 01:54am May 9, 2001 EST (#3585
of 3596)
Artemis - Canada, great nation that it is, is NOT a world power,
that's why. The US is a target for the whole world. Part deserved,
part not. There is not a third-world, anti-american country in the
whole world that would not be delighted to hit us in the chops. Big
time.
applez101
- 01:55am May 9, 2001 EST (#3586
of 3596)
vival5 - but what should also be recognized is that most of those
parties that might attack us would actually rather deal with us and
get something from us. Bargain!
vival5
- 01:57am May 9, 2001 EST (#3587
of 3596)
Sorry. Didn't address the question. The only way to protect a
person, country, whatever is to create an imbalance in your favor.
Nothing else works. Humans are not really very nice. Power is and
always has been the key. Nasty, isn't it?
applez101
- 02:02am May 9, 2001 EST (#3588
of 3596)
Vival - I disagree, the US-Canadian relationship testafies to the
fact. So does NATO, especially in its ability to continue to exist
after the end of the Cold War.
The Warsaw Pact was an exercise of your me-first principles, and
see where that ended up!
Where one's national interests positively intersect, are neutral,
or do not negatively influence eachother's is an opportunity for
bargains and alliances, producing a bedrock of evolving safety that
NMD can never hope to match.
applez101
- 02:04am May 9, 2001 EST (#3589
of 3596)
Furthermore, where there is a conflict of national interests,
there are numerous steps and opportunities before hostilities are
necessary.
vival5
- 02:07am May 9, 2001 EST (#3590
of 3596)
Appelez: I like that! Of course, it is the very best way. Excuse
me, but I always get personal, because I believe that's where we all
start from. Like a family? We give some, take some, meet a
compromise? Ah, that we could! We are like families, we countries,
these nations, not always willing to compromise, not willing to give
up an inch of our territories, wanting more, deprived because we do
not have more, different ideas about almost everything (How can this
happen in a family), every reason to unite except for our petty
differences that are more imagined than real. Sorry - It ain't going
to change pal.
ridakhan9632001
- 02:31am May 9, 2001 EST (#3591
of 3596)
donna think it appropriate.do u think in a world full of
poverty and deprivement we can afford such a luxury.instead of being
terrified smalll terrorist states let us help them so that they may
feel us friendly if they won't even a super missile defence shield
wo'nt protect us
armel7
- 02:41am May 9, 2001 EST (#3592
of 3596) Science/Health Forums Host
AP
Article:Bush to explore varity of missile defense approaches
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