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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:18pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3426
of 3480) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
1345: almarst-2001
3/22/01 10:20pm ..and 1349: almarst-2001
3/22/01 10:46pm ... showed a reaction to bombing:
"In my view, the 72 days and nights of bombing of
Serbia had the very dramatic and negative effect on international
relations, arms race and the American image. For me, this one
episode was sufficient to completely chenge my oppinion on
Clinton's presidency.
"Little did I care about his personal affairs,
even I think it was very wrong, but for the different reason - he
put the president of the greatest superpower in a danger to be
blackmailed. This is absolutly recless and in my view, deserve
impeachement.
"But to bomb and destroy the civilian
infrustructure of a country, killing at least 500 civilians and
causing the direct damage of about $60bn, dropping more bombs then
this country received during WWII was plainly criminal.
"This was a turning point when a Post-Cold War
good will was lost. And not just of Russia.
"That event clearly illustrated the need to ensure
that aggression has to have consequences for agressor. That
realisation makes nuclear disarmament at current disballance of
conventional power unrealistic.
"Not incidently, just after coming to power (again
for the same reason), Putin modified the Russian military doctrine
to permit the first use of a tactical nuclear wearpons.
" If not for this war, may be even American NMD
would be seen much more favorably, rather then an attempt to
neutralise the deterrent one may have against overhelming US
conventional military. (emphasis supplied.)
rshowalter
- 04:21pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3427
of 3480) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Now, whether "almarst" has anything to do with the Russian
government, I can only judge from context -- and others might judge
differently.
But he's expressed a reaction that, I believe, corresponds to
some Russian reactions.
And a higher level of good will than that expressed needs to be
worked out before "missile defense" will be looked on as benign.
rshowalter
- 04:25pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3428
of 3480) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If Americans could see how they look to some other people, they
could deal with situations they are now blind to, and there would be
new possibilities for progress toward stability and peace.
possumdag
- 05:30pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3429
of 3480) Possumdag@excite.com
RS: I'm an alternative energy person - green and clean - and have
put a few venture dollars into one such venture that isn't up and
running - quite!
On Nuclear Power Stations .. a nephew (aged 10) returning from
a coastal holiday close to the UK's most imfamous had pain in his
leg, this had to be amputated, below the knee. The thought was
there was nuclear discharge in the water he'd been playing in.
GI: Regarding the statistics of electricity -power station
workers - these guys had a union.
possumdag
- 05:34pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3430
of 3480) Possumdag@excite.com
Noting this GU
posting, it's a wonder that the crew from the spy plane were
released so swiftly :)
rshowalter
- 05:41pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3431
of 3480) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I think nuclear power has problems -- whether it injures as many
people as coal ash and SOx emissions, I don't know. But it
could be made both safer and cleaner, if the "everything
classified -- everything hocus pocus" ethos of the weapons lab
hadn't washed so completely over the field. I think it is worth a
look, even though I'm sorry about your nephew.
rshowalter
- 05:52pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3432
of 3480) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Where this thread has been, and a Russian point of view:
2381: rshowalter
4/18/01 6:11pm 2382: rshowalter
4/18/01 6:36pm
possumdag
- 06:23pm May 7, 2001 EST (#3433
of 3480) Possumdag@excite.com
America is kicked off another international seat - re Drugs ....
seems as if the International Community are sending Bwsh a MESSAGE
.. the message seems to be 'we can do without you' .. is that
everybody's take ?
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