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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 03:39pm May 6, 2001 EST (#3371
of 3371) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Cast of characters -- becq-cookiess0 (5)
In doing so-you destroy nuclear deterrence-the very concept that
has maintained no use of nuclear weapons against states since 1945.
If one recalls our operational experience in Desert Storm is that
while missile defense did not work very well, deterrence did work
very well. Saddam Hussein had poison gas-tipped Scuds that were
available for launch at the time of the war, and he did not use
them. Subsequently, after the U.S. military interrogated some
defectors and some captured Iraqi leaders, it became clear why not:
Saddam Hussein did not want to get blown up. Before the war, the
United States, Britain, France and Israel had all stated, both
publicly and privately, that if he was the first to use weapons of
mass destruction, he would not be the last to use weapons of mass
destruction. Saddam Hussein and his kindred despots in other
countries that we are worried about have not survived for extended
periods of time by being stupid or careless. They are ruthless and
cruel and sometimes reckless, but they don't remain in power,
despite our repeated attempts in the case of Saddam Hussein to
dislodge him, by being careless about the survival of their regime.
Saddam Hussein understood very well that if he initiated the use of
weapons of mass destruction, our retaliation would annihilate his
regime. So the notion that missile defense is the only bulwark we
have against weapons of mass destruction attacks from these regimes
simply flies in the face of our actual experience, in which
deterrence has worked very well and missile defense has not worked
very well at all.
(I'd add " not only that, but NMD can't even work." )
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3142: cookiess0
5/3/01 11:26am ! ! !
"rshowalter - every nation has a right to maintain
or have nuclear weapons. Even Iraq. A narrow focus on select
nations creates a group of haves and have nots.Thus your focus on
Iraq is bigoted.
I responded: 3143: rshowalter
5/3/01 11:28am
"We disagree on a premise. I don't think any
nation ought to have a right ot have nuclear weapons. ...... I'm
ecumenical about my rejection of nuclear weapons. I'm against
them. Anybody elses. Or ours."
3144: cookiess0
5/3/01 11:38am
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