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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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possumdag
- 05:56pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3341
of 3350) Possumdag@excite.com
Macedonia declares war
artemis130
- 07:59pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3342
of 3350) caveat venditor
Macedonia declares war
See, if we'd developed a missile umbrella, we could have deployed
it in Kosovo, thrown it into reverse and kept all those albanian
guerrillas from spilling over into neighboring territories.
artemis130
- 08:02pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3343
of 3350) caveat venditor
stand corrected " nukular families " :)
nuclear - nukular, realty - reality. What's in a name, anyway.
Maybe when GW was an oil landman, he ran around promoting the GW
Bush Reality Company?
rshowalter
- 11:03pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3344
of 3350) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
1793: rshowalter
3/30/01 2:22pm The objective must be to move away
from unnecessary fighting. And away from wholly disproportionate
means of threatening, including nuclear weapons. To this end, the
past has to be understood. Distinctions between the American
government, and the small subset that has made crucial military
decisions, needs to be made.
1794: rshowalter
3/30/01 2:24pm 1795: rshowalter
3/30/01 2:34pm . . . the possibility that a small group of
very unpatriotic individuals, ...... may have acted, and may be
acting, in deep conflict with the interest of the United States
needs to be considered.
rshowalter
- 11:05pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3345
of 3350) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
1796: rshowalter
3/30/01 3:18pm A very interesting article article http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/30/science/30NIF.html
; a matter than should not be hard to show; and an interesting
conversation I had with some government people.
****
Problems with complexity ... lunarchick
3/30/01 4:11pm
And some essential jobs to do ... rshowalter
3/30/01 4:46pm
rshowalter
- 11:06pm May 5, 2001 EST (#3346
of 3350) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Some links to key postings: ..... rshowalter
3/30/01 6:33pm
possumdag
- 06:40am May 6, 2001 EST (#3347
of 3350) Possumdag@excite.com
I did a post on TedTurner's Cold War (tv-doco) ... the net Nanny
must have objected to the name of the guy who gave USA secrets to
the USSR in early 1950's . Ted seems interested in limiting MD
rshowalter
- 08:04am May 6, 2001 EST (#3348
of 3350) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Turner is an admirable figure.
Slowly but surely, my own credetialling problems, which are due
to an unconventional history, are being resolved. As that happens,
the chance I have for fruitful contacts with people of Turner's
distinction get greater.
On April 7, I contacted CNN, and they referred me to an
individual working on Ted Turner's dealings with respect to Russian
Television. After a short conversation, I sent that individual an
email, copied in the link below, which contains many links to
extensive conversations about the Russian press, on this thread,
between "almarst," Dawn Riley, and myself -- exchanges that I hoped
would be influential, and that I believe may have been. 2088: rshowalter
4/8/01 8:30am 2089: rshowalter
4/8/01 8:30am Rereading that email, and the conversations it
links to, I'm proud and glad to have been part of the dialog with
"almarst".
In that email letter, I suggested that "almarst" was an
individual well connected to Russian government, and perhaps Putin
himself -- a point where I may have been wrong. Readers may judge
that. The matter could, if need be, be checked. If almarst does not
have ties with Russian government circles, he has a viewpoint that,
I believe, simulates them in a suggestive way. That has, I think,
made it possible for us to work out important things about the logic
of US-Russian relations, on this thread. Including matters that must
be dealt with for a world where nuclear risks are far, far less than
they are now.
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