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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 05:11pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3274
of 3291) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
If the there was a United Nations that conducted itself
without the United States, the United States would be subject
to a great deal of discipline - because there are so many things
that US military power cannot do, in the face of determined
and united foreign opposition.
The United States is dissipating its moral and practical
leadership in the world with amazing speed.
lunarchick
- 05:14pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3275
of 3291) lunarchick@www.com
If the USA said they'd strike ME, then i'd be traumatised .. and
as such ... feel compelled to take the USA to court and ask for
dollars ... the lesson for the US being 'Traumatisation via threat
and bullying - co$t$'
lunarchick
- 05:19pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3276
of 3291) lunarchick@www.com
The Art of
War (MIT)
rshowalter
- 05:19pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3277
of 3291) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
When damages are substanitial, it ought to be a lot of dollars
--- enough to keep bullying from being a paying proposition. If I
were Russia, I'd pay particular attention to this. If I were China,
I would, too.
lunarchick
- 05:22pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3278
of 3291) lunarchick@www.com
China (rightly or wrongly) had dollars in mind re the spy-plane.
Of course China have boats that spy on Japan .. who in turn etc
..
gisterme
- 05:31pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3279
of 3291)
rshowalter wrote: "...I bet even Mary Poppins might be stern
indeed facing these circumstances..."
No doubt Robert. Too bad she didn't show up in time to confront
Hitler and Stalin with her flying umberlla.
That we need Mary Poppins type intervention in order to solve our
nuke problem is the glaring flaw in your arguements.
Everything you've suggested so far requires everybody to be in
voluntary agreement to permanenly forswear deception, covetiousness,
murder, theft, bigotry, jealousy, hatred...and reproduction. That
last is to ensure that nobody is born who decides to follow Islam or
wants to be a Catholic or an agnosic or an athiest or wants to rule
the world.
That's a pretty tall order. :-)
Maybe if you could just convince everybody in the world to become
Southern Baptists...
Of course, it would take a LOT of checking staff to verify 100%
compliance with anti-backsliding rules; and who would check the
checkers? The checker's checkers? The Ministry of Checker-Checking
would need lots of staffing too. There might be an office empty next
door to the Ministry of Silly Walks...
rshowalter
- 05:40pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3280
of 3291) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We you ever, by chance, a Congressman?
possumdag
- 05:46pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3281
of 3291) Possumdag@excite.com
Didn't Showalter (above) indicate he has no religion ?
Perhaps religions have a purpose in the environments of their
time.
The Catholic religion was too ostentatious for the plain
non-ornamental protestants.
The environment of Drinking/smoking/gambling was a stir towards
protestanism in C19.
Islam would have been introduced in C8 as an advancement on
Christianity.
Religions offer codes and rules for people to maximise their
social systems within specified environments. Environments change.
Are we living in a post-cold war environment, or, a post + cold
war environment ... or a confused environment ... or a TRADE
environment -- probably the latter if people cared to admit it.
What's the religion of TRADE? One notes that ETHICS made a
re-emergence over recent years ... with the demise of religious
ethics people needed the stimulation of new ethical frameworks for
guidance.
possumdag
- 05:47pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3282
of 3291) Possumdag@excite.com
On Hitler:Stalin:MaryPoppins .. the book was published in their
era .. 1934.
possumdag
- 05:49pm May 4, 2001 EST (#3283
of 3291) Possumdag@excite.com
Perhaps the ingenious Mary Poppins could open her brolly to use
as a Missile Sheild ?
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