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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:47pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3204
of 3207) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
On changing the dark side of human nature. Everybody has a dark
side. And some of what "good" people do makes you want to turn your
head away.
People need to go to the effort of working out conventions that
permit them to deal decently with each other. It isn't always the
"most natural" or "easiest" thing.
rshowalter
- 09:00pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3205
of 3207) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Are we always "the good guys"? rshowalter
3/22/01 11:48am
How much "collateral damage" is justified in hurting the bad
guys? -- Some think that half a million kids have died unnecessarily
in Iraq because of sanctions. -- Not at all our fault?
Were those two million civilians killed in Korea by our bombing
"evil people"?
No regrets about that?
How about justification for using nuclear weapons. Do they only
kill "bad folks?"
It helps to count. And have a reasonable regret for
carnage.
Something the US seems to lack, as far as the past goes, and
something that the US seems to disregard, with respect to the future
-- as long as the dead are not Americans, and Americans don't have
to be aware of the suffering.
Is that how it is? Your concern for "evil people" interests me.
Who are the evil people?
Should you, for example, know their names before you kill
them?
rshowalter
- 09:07pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3206
of 3207) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Though I am a backslider myself I have the priviledge of posting
a sermon, When the Foundations are Shaking by Dr. James Slatton
of the River Road Church (Baptist) in Richmond, Va. rshowalter
2/24/01 9:25am People of secular inclinations might want to skip
ahead to 9:27 in the sermon . Thereafter, it is a tribute to a
Russian colonel, who kept nuclear war from destroying us all, during
the Reagan administration. And a teaching of lessons that most
people know, and live well by, that are important to the
preservation of our world. I believe that people of enough good will
to be human would be interested, and moved, by this part of the
sermon, no matter how secular their views. This colonel was not
"a bad guy."
rshowalter
- 09:13pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3207
of 3207) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'll be interested in your thoughts about "evil people" , and
especially, about the mechanics of how you make peace with people
you deal with as "evil people."
Lincoln, as I recall, said:
"If you look for the bad in people, you will
surely find it.
If you find it, does that justify your killing them without
qualm? If they happen to be born in the wrong place, does that
justify your killing them without qualm, or threatening them with
death without qualm?
Isn't carnage something to be regretted, something to work to
avoid, even for "tough guys?"
In my view, it is working hard to avoid.
I'd like to hear more about the "evil people" you're so sure
about.
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