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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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rshowalter - 05:12pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3175 of 3207) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

An index of US popularity -- time to mend some fences?

U.S. Fails to Secure Seat on U.N. Rights Commission by CHRISTOPHER S. WREN http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/03/world/03CND-NATION.html

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    I'm concerned that the US is approaching an certain kind of "loneliness of power" that is neither to our credit nor in our interest.

    . Tyrannososaurus was a beast
    that had no friends, to say the least.
    It ruled the ancient out-of-doors,
    and slaughtered other dinosaurs

    from TYRANNOSAURUS WAS A BEAST: Dinosaur Poems by Jack Prelustsky illustrated by Arnold Lobel .... a fine book to buy for any kid, of any age, interested in either poetry of dinosaurs

    We have to worry that, whatever our intentions, and whatever our rhetoric, people view initiatives like missile defense from that sort of perspective.

    We need to explain ourselves better and, perhaps, come up with better cases to make.

    We also have to find ways to be less resented.

    gisterme - 05:16pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3176 of 3207)

    rshowalter wrote: "...With the penalties clear and in place, it seems likely to me that inspections would occur with little fuss."

    Right, Robert. Just like in Iraq.

    All we'd need to do to implement that plan of yours is get all the nations of the world to agree to give up most of their soverignty and guarantee that they would only allow benevelent honest leadership that is immune to the lust for power. I have to agree that THAT would definately take some serious staffing.

    wrcooper - 05:21pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3177 of 3207)
    The whole is a riddle, an enigma, an inexplicable mystery. Doubt [and] uncertainty...appear the only result of our most accurate scrutiny....But such is the frailty of human reason. --David Hume


    April 5, 2001: The total development, deployment, and maintenance costs for all U.S. ballistic missile defense programs will exceed $115 billion, according to a report in Defense Week citing newly released Pentagon figures. The tally includes not just NMD but also lower-tier programs such as Navy's Theater Wide system and the Army's THAAD, as well as the SBIRS-Low satellite constellation. The total life-time cost of the Pentagon's missile defense programs is still unclear -- the Pentagon could only provide estimated maintenance costs for four of its eight missile defense programs.

    Just double and these figures, if they're DOD generated.

    Such a deal! All for a system that won't work and won't deter terroristic attacks.

    lunarchick - 05:33pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3178 of 3207)
    lunarchick@www.com

    My comments way above re to think of weaknesses, the unaware stomach of Houdini, the 'touched by hand' aspect of achillies heel ......

    Let's throw in what we'd expect of a good Manager, i'll add this because Bwsh opted for management studies - way back when.

    As a Manager how did he manage the China Situation:

      Southern graces and manners were forgotton
      He castigated China as a rogue
      China called his bluff
      He lost a plane $20M+ it'sR&D to China
      China psychological warfare was his instigation
      Bwsh had to learn to eat his words, chew paper - a Chinese innovation
      Carelessness and lack of thought can lead to Chaos.
      Americans are jousting with Chinese right now at the psychological level via the 'invasion' + 'destruction' + 'rape' and 'trashing' of web sites! ... How grown-up can this be ?
      The new empire isn't land rather digital and of the mind!
      A part of Management is Leadership.
      People follow a good leader.
      The world is TURNING AWAY from Bwsh!
      If America sees itself as the kingpin of the world
      If it wants respect
      Wants to mediate over and help settle disputes
      Wants innovation for process taken to America - thereby creating wealth - for exploitation
      If America wants to maintain capital 'L' world Leadership
      Then it's 'back to the drawingboard' at the Pentatgon
      Grow up fast, have imroved ethical and moral ideals
      Have respect for 'others'
      Stop the bully tactics on home poor other Nations
      Learn how to Lead
      Be wise, happy, and philanthropically generous!

    matthewmaly - 05:49pm May 3, 2001 EST (#3179 of 3207)

    Regarding President Bush's National Missile Defense Program, you may be interested to know how was the nuclear threat Mr. Bush was talking about countered on the ground. Defense Enterprise Fund ("DEF") was given $67M by the U.S. Congress and tasked with the mission to convert or peacefully employ former Soviet producers of weapons of mass destruction. In other words, DEF's mission was to make sure that rogue states would not get the technology Mr. Bush is prepared to spent tens of billions of dollars to "defend" the United States from.

    And what was the result? DEF's money was lost in a veritable orgy of waste and mismanagement. The Moscow Times, Russia's leading western-owned English language daily newspaper, has published a Special Report entitled "Investing, Pentagon-Style". It describes DEF management practices that brought this program to the brink of collapse. And it is important to note that nobody cares: could it be that DEF stood in the way of Mr. Bush's favorite multibillion dollar spending program?

    The Report consists of five separate items, 10,000 words in total. It can be found on my website http://maly.newmail.ru/ (all the way down on the first page, in the brown box).

    If you need any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

    Respectfully,

    Matthew Maly

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