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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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possumdag
- 07:00pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3071
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
Mr Bush is becoming a menace concludes the Guardian
article May2 above.
gisterme
- 07:08pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3072
of 3082)
rshowalter wrote: "...I won't EVER lift 4000 lbs in the same
lifts. It is just not on.
Star wars requires order of magnitude advances in a number of
areas . . . .
If you expect to lift 4000 lbs with your body then you'er SOL. I
stand in awe of 435! If I needed to lift 4000 pounds I suppose I'd
just have to hire a crane. Probably have to do the same for 435...
But order of magnitude improvements in technologies...are rare?
Look around Robert. How many "high tech" items can you see that are
not at least an order of magnitude better than they were 200 years
ago? Probably none, because high tech items did't exist then. How
about items that are several orders of magnitude better than they
were 50 years ago? A few? How about 20 years ago? If you're reading
this message, you're looking in one of the right places. :-) The
point is that throughout the last couple of centuries technologies
have continually emerged, flourished and been left behind due to the
appearance of newer technoligies. Consider the typewriter. Also,
sometimes technological items are based on several underlying
technologies. Take a TV set for example. Even though a modern TV set
serves the same purpose as one from 50 years ago, the several orders
of magnitude difference in performance is due to advancements or
replacements of underlying technologies: vacuum tubes -> discrete
semiconductor devices -> integrated circuits...etc.
So I can't buy your "orders of magnitude" arguement either
Robert. How do you KNOW that orders of magnitude performance
improvements are necessary for any part of the existing BMD system?
What are the "number of areas" you're talking about? If you do know,
then post the numbers so we can check 'em. :-)
possumdag
- 07:09pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3073
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
http://pearly-abraham.tripod.com/htmls/nmd-church.html
FAITH BASED MND won't work
possumdag
- 07:16pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3074
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
http://www.onlinejournal.com/
possumdag
- 07:20pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3075
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
"""Australia was the most positive, saying that it shared U.S.
concerns over potential missile threats from some governments.
A spokeswoman for Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said
Australia would allow the use of joint military bases such as the
Pine Gap facility in central Australia for missile shield
communications. """
read above as the non-thinking heads http://salon.com/news/wire/2001/05/02/nmd/index.html
possumdag
- 07:25pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3076
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
continuing GU thread MD links:
The Costs of Ballistic Missile Defense http://www.cdi.org/hotspots/issuebrief/ch5/#update
NMD - What does it mean and why we should care ? http://www.cdi.org/hotspots/issuebrief/
possumdag
- 07:26pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3077
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
Guide to weapons http://www.fas.org/nuke/hew/
gisterme
- 07:26pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3078
of 3082)
"...These are only three of many possible countermeasures. And
none of these ideas is new; most are as old as ballistic missiles
themselves..." How many of those countermeasures would be
effective during the boost phase of an ICBM launch? None.
How about the re-entry phase? Probably none.
possumdag
- 07:30pm May 2, 2001 EST (#3079
of 3082) Possumdag@excite.com
http://www.itn.co.uk/news/20010502/world/08starwars.shtml
with appendage links
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