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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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michstate1
- 11:26am May 2, 2001 EST (#2980
of 2996)
Missile Defense will never work. There are so many different ways
that nations can annihilate one another that make the shield concept
invalid, excessively expensive, and essential ineffectual.
The real issue is FEAR AND HATRED of others that national leaders
use to justify potentially ANNIHILATING other peoples or even their
own nation. We must STOP the race to destroy MANKIND.
The only defense system that will work is a HUMAN defense system
-- one that values human life and is willing to work for
reconciliation, forgiveness, peace, and cooperation, rather that
fear, hatred, and justification of ways to KILL. I pray that all
peoples choose peace.
Of course, this is much more difficult to achieve and not an easy
fix. Politicans prefer easy fixes to placate others or make
themselved "look" good or falsely "strong". The work I recommend is
much more difficult. It requires great courage, great commitment,
great leadership, and the willingness to pray and ask for divine
intervention for the problems that face us all together globally --
regardless of our race, religion, nationality, or gender. We all
matter -- we need leadership that values all human life.
rajten
- 11:26am May 2, 2001 EST (#2981
of 2996)
I just read The New York Times on the Web, Wednesday, May 2,
2001, article entitled "In Strategy Overhaul, Bush Seeks a Missile
Shield" by DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN LEE MYERS.
On the right-hand side, authors list part of the 1972
Anti-Ballistic Missile treaty that was entered with the Soviet
Union. I was wondering (and will check back here briefly if I can
remember how)....Didn't the US already venture into some Star Wars
kind of space unit that would knock out some kinds of land-based
missiles when launched into the atmosphere, in attempts to defend
the USA?
And if this was just planned or if it was actually implemented,
then wouldn't it mean that the ABM Treaty of '72 has already been
violated? Maybe I am missing the larger point in this particular
issue, but what is to stop the president from making and approving
any of his intentions for defending the country in such a hasty
manner with the additional use and development of violent weapons?
applez0
- 11:41am May 2, 2001 EST (#2982
of 2996)
Rajten - As far as has been publically acknowledged, the Star
Wars SDI experiments never extended to field trials in space...most
never left the lab (interception & ID software, for example).
fgreenfield0
- 11:47am May 2, 2001 EST (#2983
of 2996)
Where are these "shot down" missiles going to land if not on
Canadian soil. Guess it doesn't matter if you kill some of your
friends as long as you protect the USA. Real good thinking Mr. Bush.
America is definitely in danger of becoming the world's bully. How
long does anyone think that other nations will tolerate this kind of
thinking and start building their own missile defence. To use the
term "rogue countries" is just one more way of forcing other
countries to re-build their armaments. Does anyone serious think
that a country like China or India etc is going to back down in the
face of this kind of irresponsible confrontation. Not likely. It
used to be the "Russians are coming, the Russians are coming...no
doubt it will be re-worded to "the Chinese are coming, the chinese
are coming.
rshowalter
- 11:48am May 2, 2001 EST (#2984
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Good question, but it is worth remembering that what is happening
may make things safer , right now, and in the future, even
if, as I believe, and almost everybody else on this thread also
seems to believe, the missile defense technology will be no good at
all.
Neither China, nor Russia, nor anybody else are going to be
threatened by a US missile defense, in any near future, and is is SO
easy to defeat anything that is even remotely feasible, that nation
states will have plenty of time to neutralize anything and
everything "Star Wars" can do. So it is a waste, and a terrible
waste, but not a threat.
But the perception may be very, very productive. Because
we are now paying attention to matters of nuclear peril -- issues
that we ought to have been paying attention to all along.
If we think at all carefully (and if other nations stand up for
their rational interest) reasonable solutions -- that aren't
even so difficult, may be possible.
Restarting the Nuclear Race by Richard Butler http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/02/opinion/02BUTL.html
makes a very good case.
"Reduction of the nuclear threat can best be accomplished
directly through arms control and disarmament. This would cost a
fraction of what the administration will need for missile
defense."
And disarmament, unlike missile defense, is actually workable
if, somehow, American citizens can be made to pay attention to
what is really happening, and what the world situation actually
is.
We should get on with it.
rodolsen0
- 12:15pm May 2, 2001 EST (#2985
of 2996)
The President's words do not hide the intent of his actions. The
way forward is to rekindle the arms race. Of course, his missile
defence is designed to intimidate Russia and China. The spectre
haunting the last Bush presidency - Saddam in Iraq - is a
smokescreen. The US military-industrial complex has been in the
doldrums since the collapse of the Soviet Union. Son of Star Wars
will provide billions in funding to arms developers and
manufacturers. Billions that could otherwise better educate US
children, overcome poverty in the US, combat the US contribution to
greenhouse gas emissions, provide health care to millions in the US
who cannot afford private health insurance and provide millions of
jobs in the all the developments to meeet the needs of ordinary
people in the US. But the appeal to the President is the mirage of
achieving what President Reagan failed to do - Star Wars. World
peace is now threatened by the deluded dreams of President George W
Bush.
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