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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:04am May 2, 2001 EST (#2959
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
In Strategy Overhaul, Bush Seeks a Missile Shield by
DAVID E. SANGER and STEVEN LEE MYERS http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/02/world/02PREX.html
"WASHINGTON, May 1 — President Bush called today
for sweeping changes in security strategy, including a new
relationship with Russia, that would build an expansive missile
defense system and cut "to the lowest possible number" the nuclear
arsenals that both sides assembled in the cold war.
"Mr. Bush also did not discuss the possible cost
of his "layered" system, which would build on existing
technologies like Aegis ship-borne radar and missile-firing
systems and also use untested technologies like airborne or
space-based lasers.
There's no reason to believe that this approach has any
chance of working. The limitations of Aegis radar illustrate, and
should illustrate vividly, how far-fetched the idea is.
"The system would be highly limited. It would do
nothing, for example, to protect against a small nuclear or
biological device brought into the United States or Europe in a
suitcase or on an airplane. And it would clearly not be 100
percent effective against missiles, meaning that the threat of
massive retaliation would still be a central principle of American
nuclear doctrine.
"Mr. Rumsfeld dismissed such criticism, arguing
that early versions could be effective even if imperfect.
That's a quantitative question. How imperfect? There's no
evidence that anything built, or even sketched, can work at
all.
> "Army officials have told Mr. Rumsfeld's aides that they
could accelerate development of the ground- based system, with a
sophisticated radar station and at least five interceptor missiles
in Alaska, and have it ready by 2004, officials said.
2004 is a long time away -- and delays in these systems are
usual.
"A senior administration official said the most
promising approach in the near future appeared to be the Airborne
Laser Program, being developed by Boeing, Lockheed Martin and TRW
and promoted as the first laser-armed combat aircraft. The
contractors plan to test the system, a multimegawatt oxygen-iodine
laser mounted on a retrofitted 747, in 2003.
This is nowhere close to being useful for missile defense.
The information flows for aiming aren't there.
"Although the president spoke of "promising
options," there are many questions about technological
feasibility.
When I suggest that the work, operationally, is "as devoid of
merit as a herringfish is of fur" does anyone contradict that.
"The ground-based interceptor rocket at the heart
of the Pentagon program has had test failures. Another test,
copying a failed one in July, is scheduled soon. The other
programs are untested.
Translation: We're being polite, but not one damn thing works.
"We fear the president may be buying a lemon
here," said the Senate minority leader, Tom Daschle of South
Dakota. "There has not been a shred of evidence that this works."
I wonder how Americans would react, if someone, at the level
where they make personal decisions, set out to sell them something
very expensive, and potentially lethal to them if it didn't work, on
this basis. Suppose it was done on the basis of a very hard
sell?
I'd be angry.
speedbird77
- 08:20am May 2, 2001 EST (#2960
of 2996)
For decades, arms control advocates have been pleading for
reductions in the US arsenal. Now that Bush wants to actually reduce
these warheads, we are told that it will lead to proliferation or
worse.
The US military has other priorities. Spending billions of
dollars just to maintain the fleet in a world which is much
different today is not practical.
In short, the US wants to reduce its current inventory of some
7000 warheads to approximately 1500. You would think that arms
control advocates would be jumping for joy but it now seems they can
never be satisfied.
Their assertion that the ABM treaty is the "cornerstone of arms
control" is pure rubbish.
It was signed decades ago with a nation that no longer exists and
in a time when mutually assured destruction was the accepted
strategy.
It did not however stop the Soviets from constructing an ABM
system around Moscow and it should not stop the US from ridding
itself of thousands of nuclear warheads.
The future belongs to those who can envision it.
Large powerful all encompassing defensive systems are the future.
speedbird77
- 08:24am May 2, 2001 EST (#2961
of 2996)
We did not reach the moon in a week and we will not build missile
defense in a week.
However, shouldn't we begin somewhere?
Where would this great nation be if we had thrown up our hands in
submission in the face of great undertakings.
nemo0
- 08:43am May 2, 2001 EST (#2962
of 2996) Man has lost the ability to foresee and to
forestall. He will end by destroying the earth. - Albert
Schweitzer
speedbird77, wrote, "However, shouldn't we begin somewhere?"
Absolutely. We should begin by errecting a large mirror, and as
the nation, we should take a long, hard look at ourselves. We must
scrutinize, how on earth, we have found ourselves reeling backwards,
with a most ignorant, ill-selected "leader" at the helm.
In case you haven't noticed, since Junior's selection, the
world's political climate has been aggitated to a frightening
degree. In regions where diplomacy was making real headway (albeit
more slowly than impatient minds might like) much of that work has
been dissolved. Shamefully, most of this can be attributed to the
new administrations' tone of negativity, cased in arrogance, fear,
and greed.
It takes no social science research to get the general "vibe" the
new inept administration, "led" by the dubious Junior. The world
gives us their feedback, daily.
Synopsis: We're not making any friends out there, and those of
whom we considered friends are suddenly becoming quiet, or even
worse, speaking out against us.
The question is not one of "missile defense," but rather how can
we best engage fruitful diplomacy among a world that is growing
increasingly smaller. Without question, the first response is to rid
our Republic of the inappropriate "leader" so dubiously chosen. We
need a leader with tremendous intellect as we move into the 21st
century. Shamefully, we currently have "daddy's boy," Bush, Jr. We,
as Americans, are scorned by the world for his taking the throne,
and rightfully so.
REMOVE BUSH, JR. FROM THE WHITE HOUSE!
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