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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 06:55am May 2, 2001 EST (#2954
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I can identify with and sympathize with almost everything (with
some reservations about emotion) set out in davidding
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And yet I can still say, MAYBE "so far so good." rshowalter
5/1/01 11:19pm
GW Bush is an important actor here, but not the only one. Star
Wars isn't going to happen today or tomorrow, and it is clear that
we are here today, and if we are not to be gone tomorrow, we have to
make workable accomodations, for situations and people, as they
really are, day by day.
It seems to me that GREAT progress has been made, in six weeks
time.
We can't ask Bush to do things that are impossible for him, in
the real situation he's in, with the real people he deals with, with
the real committments (like them or not) that he's made and is
enmeshed in. Things have come a long way, in the right direction.
That doesn't mean we should defer to him, or think he's right on
everything, or even right about much. But I feel we do need to
remember that Bush isn't "free" in the way a writer is free. Bush
has to move in a logically incremental fashion.
Bush's public statements yesterday, looking at the whole
situation, look to me like theay are, at the least, consistent with
good outcomes, within the human limits.
I feel that it would be a disaster to trust President Bush, defer
to his judgements, or defer to the judgements of his advisors,
without checking. The stakes are too high to trust anybody
without checking, and Bush has connections that subject his
decisions to specific questions.
I feel that other world leaders should stand on their own
judgements, and represent the interests they are supposed to. I
don't think they should defer to Bush (or anybody else, on an issue
as important as this) without checking.
The press shouldn't be nearly as trusting as it mostly is
on this matter, and I'm thankful for the independence the Times so
often shows.
Still, considering the world as it is, and not as we might wish
it to be, and considering the players, not as we might wish them to
be, but as they are, I'd still consider, as one possibility among
some others:
" maybe , so far so good."
rshowalter
- 06:57am May 2, 2001 EST (#2955
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We're involved in a process of persuasion, involving real people,
and real situations, for stakes that are as high as they can
reasonably be.
rshowalter
- 07:05am May 2, 2001 EST (#2956
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We may have to question a great deal, including some "unwritten
rules." rshowalter
3/20/01 8:18am rshowalter
3/20/01 9:33am
But we shouldn't forget what we might hope for, and what we might
hope for from the Bush administration, either. rshowalter
3/20/01 12:43pm
rshowalter
- 07:13am May 2, 2001 EST (#2957
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Dream worlds, beauty, and right and wrong. rshowalter
3/26/01 8:36pm rshowalter
3/26/01 8:46pm Things have to happen step by step. That's
surely true, if people have "lost touch with reality" - the hard
intellectual work involved in getting in better touch has to happen
step by step.
I can and do think Star Wars is crazy. I can think that, and
still think Bush may be acting in good faith, from where he is, and
moving in the right direction.
rshowalter
- 07:48am May 2, 2001 EST (#2958
of 2996) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
World Wary About Bush Missile Plan by THE ASSOCIATED
PRESS http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Bush-Defense-World-Reax.html
Bush is far from having a consensus for his positions. He,
and the party and intellectual tradition he's representing, may, in
fact, be moving the US from a position of leadership to a more
marginal, lower status, intellectually less respected role. He, his
party, and the intellectual tradition he's fronting for may be
acting in the strongest possible way to make other nation states
think about their own interests, and the collective world interests,
with the US thought of, not as a dominant leader, but as one nation
among the rest, and, for many purposes, an outsider.
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