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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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fox2one
- 08:50pm May 1, 2001 EST (#2935
of 2939)
"President Bush announced his plans today for a missile
defense system at the National Defense University in
Washington."
The story with his "Smugness" -- God, what a look --no wonder the
world looks down on the US of A!
The story: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/01/world/01CND-PREXY.html
rshowalter
- 09:07pm May 1, 2001 EST (#2936
of 2939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Here is the FAREWELL ADDRESS of President Dwight D. Eisenhower
January 17, 1961. http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
I believe Eisenhower would have been much more concerned than he
was (and he was VERY concerned) had he forseen more of the future.
I feel that the things I am doing now are things Eisenhower would
have approved of. I've thought so a long time. I ask a question of
the form
What would __________ do in this particular
situation?
pretty often. It is a sort of a checklist. One of the blanks I
fill in, and have for years, is Eisenhower. (Edison, J.D.Rockefeller
Sr., Menken, and a number of other people are also on my list.)
Eisenhower was not a flawless man. He was a cold eyed, analytical
killer when he had to be. But he was a very perceptive, tough,
graceful negotiator, as well.
He worked with Kurt LeMay, one of the monsters of all time, and
used him as a tool.
But Eisenhower was a man with a sense of proportion, whenever he
could be.
Within his limitations Eisenhower had a great respect for fact,
and a sense of what was worth defending about the United
States.
He also knew how ugly the consequences of mistakes could be, and
checked his work as best he could.
If the people in charge of military matters today thought more
about what was worth defending about America, the
world would be both a safer and cleaner place.
Maybe things are getting better. At least, some things are
"off top dead center" so that, along with the possibility of
things getting worse, there is at least the possibility of
improvement, too.
It is a time for care, and for staying awake.
marlynn0
- 09:49pm May 1, 2001 EST (#2937
of 2939)
George W. Bush's actions frighten me--I see him moving toward
increasing tensions in the world in order to make the US military
feel that they have a purpose as he promised in his campaign
speeches. Certainly $$$ is involved here as well--paybacks to
contractors, weapons manufacturers, etc. The world is in danger.
rshowalter
- 10:00pm May 1, 2001 EST (#2938
of 2939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I found a great deal to like and admire in President Bush's
speech, excerpted in
In Bush's Words: 'Substantial Advantages of Intercepting
Missiles Early' http://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/02/world/02TEXT.html?pagewanted=all
I might have chosen another headline for the speech.
At the level of national leadership, Bush used his "bully pulpit"
to send a simple, essential message to Americans.
. Nuclear weapons are terrible.
- The past nuclear policies were terrible --
necessary, but terrible in human terms .... "
- AND NOW THERE IS A CHANCE TO MOVE AWAY FROM
THESE POLICIES -- AND TOWARD A SAFER WORLD.
George Bush didn't commit himself to many specifics - and should
not have done so.
I'm glad he didn't.
But I feel that the stance was very good
indeed.
Nuclear weapons are terrible -- they are a threat that we, as a
nation, in coordination with the realities of the whole world, must
deal with, and minimize as best we can.
It seems to me that, just now, he could hardly have sent a
better message.
At the level of substance, he has nothing at the level of
substance for missile defense, and claims but little more than
nothing now in place.
That's fair enough.
The '72 treaty was based on a cruel bluff in any case.
I've raised questions that I feel are essential, and entirely
fair, about the past. And the past counts -- the "past" cannot be a
"constructed lie" if people are to make good decisions.
Nor can consequences be entirely evaded.
But it is the future we hope for.
In many ways, Bush set a responsible and constructive tone ---
as he leads America into our future.
I wouldn't qualify as a Bush "fan." But for this limited time, in
this specific context, I say
" Bravo. "
rshowalter
- 10:02pm May 1, 2001 EST (#2939
of 2939) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Bush sent another message --- and I'm very glad he did.
He sent the message to Americans that, in some parts of the
world, America is hated. Bitterly hated.
He didn't say why. He didn't say there might be reasons for the
hatred.
But he did communicate the fact.
If that fact became widely understood in America, more
reasonable actions would be possible.
Until that fact is known, in at least a little detail, Americans
cannot be asked to deal with the reasons for a hatred that they do
not even know exists.
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