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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 09:01am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2579
of 2586) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
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- 09:01am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2580
of 2586) Robert Showalter
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- 09:02am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2581
of 2586) Robert Showalter
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- 09:06am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2582
of 2586) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
People, and professional groups, can be totally sure of their
ground, and show a confidence that inspires confidence in others,
because their "knowledge" "fits well in their heads" - in a
subjective sense - because they have an enormous corpus of self
consistent "information." Due to construction and matching in their
own heads. Also due to an acceptance of what they've been told, and
ideas mutually constructed by contact with the minds of the people
in their culture.
In fact, people all though history have shown such confidence,
even when the "knowledge" in question was entirely unmatchable -
grossly inconsistent with, testable, checkable fact.
A historically important, humanly important example, that wasted
many hundreds millions of person years, and which caused untold
suffering, was the "learning" of the medical profession before
modern medical science. Rudyard Kipling's Our Fathers of Old
tells some of that story, poetically but accurately -- it is a story
of great carnage - of terrible human waste. http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?13@@.ee79f4e/241
Whole groups can be disastrously crazy. There is a great deal
of reason to believe that exactly this has happened to the people in
charge of our military policy, and especially our nuclear policy.
Edward Teller's life, and the lies and evasions he got away with,
offer many examples -- his advocacy of missile defense as a viable
technical option among them.
Missile defense, as it was ordered by Reagan, and still today, is
a technical fraud. Although in such a large effort there will be
isolated interesting pieces of work (miraculously few for the
money).
At the system level, missile defense has always been, and
is now, "as devoid of merit as a herringfish is of fur."
The only explanation I can see, and one that seems consistent
with a great deal, is that it is being sold so hard because
it is a lie. A lie that people in power are willing to defend at all
costs (including the cost of more fraud, and continued treason.)
Perhaps there is another explanation. It would be interesting to
hear one set out, in cross-examinable detail, on core technical
issues.
rshowalter
4/23/01 10:54am
possumdag
- 09:18am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2583
of 2586) Possumdag@excite.com
At a cultural festival - WARANA (now defunct) in Brisbane, the
Tiawanese had a wonderful kite flying display. Think of a kite, it
soars in the wind, you look up, and marvel ... it rides the waves of
aircurrent .. billows out with pride, and is artistically patterned
with love.
Quite different from a stringed marionette - subject to the
reality of gravity.
America's foremost marionette was interviewed regarding Tiawan
and China and those ugly missiles. Whoever was pulling the strings
had a judder problem re the right foot .. why was it shaking so? The
pale and aged ... lips issued "We will do whatever it takes to
protect Tiawan" .. I wondered 'is he saying ... if he decided it
would take a missile, then a missile would be used -- what was the
USA President actually saying? ... where is this threatening of the
5000year old nation of warriors leading him? ... hadn't he heard of
'thinking smart' 'negotiation' 'intercultural friendship' .... ?'
Such a pity your encumbrant hadn't had Presidency as a life-long
passion, then he might have travelled, prepared himself, learnt that
humanity is the ONE race ... and there is ONLY one race.
I note that the Phillipines have a former president up on the
charge of PLUNDERING their treasury. The law says if found guilty -
death by injection.
I'm wondering here if there is a difference between a President
having a 'conflict of interest' situation as per USA and a President
having a 'plundering' charge in SE Asia.
I'm musing here ... will go no further.
possumdag
- 09:27am Apr 25, 2001 EST (#2584
of 2586) Possumdag@excite.com
Then again ... I don't see the difference between conflict of
interest and plundering ... arn't they both a form of TREASON
? [PDF]
www.sagepub.co.uk/journals/details/issue/sample/a009391.pdf
Copyright # SAGE Publications London ... School of Law, USA Key
Words ... license to punish of®cial ... conviction for `treason,
bribery ...
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