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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 08:18pm Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2335
of 2338) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I believe, and I think Dawn Riley believes, that when human
beings think well, either individually, or as parts of groups, they
think in this sort of way.
I believe that is true of me. I think it has to be true of the
people I know well.
"Schema" - the "theories in their heads" are the most
compelling reality that people can know.
This process of "forming beauty" -- making sense of the world --
can be remarkably creative and satisfactory. But it can be
treacherous when wrong conclusions are reached.
Moreover, people become intensely attached (emotionally and
organically connected) to the ideas in their head, and when ideas
clash -- people can get angry, can dehumanize each other, and can
fight and kill.
Russians and Westerners see many things differently.
(Years ago, I can remember, again and again,
liking the Russian way of going at mathematics better - and being
amazed how very different the patterns were.)
Because we see things differently, there can be, and often is,
powerful hostility, and consistent, organized unfairness, on both
sides.
It is worse than it looks, because we are all "a little lower
than the angels" and, though we are warm and helpful to people who
are "one of us" -- we are, as animals, for quite natural reasons,
brutal to "outsiders."
baxter46a
- 08:19pm Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2336
of 2338)
Another way to look at it is: Things are so ugly, Missiles,"
people" and in general. That when you do find any thing of
beauty In Missiles,people and in general. Enjoy it and partake of
the beauty Your writing is great. I read it for weeks I will
get back with you, I follow your sermon links ect...I have learned a
lot! I like the OSS and Sermon links the best. Keep up the great
work. Thanks.
rshowalter
- 08:34pm Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2337
of 2338) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
These things connect closely to the questions raised in almarst-2001
4/17/01 1:43pm and almarst-2001
4/17/01 2:09pm .
How can Americans, and other Westerners be so curiously wrong, so
massively unfair, so "dirty" in Russian eyes, and yet so cocksure?
Alas, all too easily.
Since the West is now "up" and Russia "down" -- it may look
especially bad for us.
But Russia has all the same problems, too.
rshowalter
- 08:45pm Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2338
of 2338) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
On all sides, we need to be less confident of our schema, and
more careful of our facts, and the consistency relations needed to
deal with these facts.
In its internal affairs, Russia needs this even more than
American does in her internal affairs. And American needs to
demuddle on some key things.
In the area of military balances, and especially in the area of
nuclear weapons, it is vital in the old, bald, life-and-death
sense that we get some muddled ideas tested. Rejected. And more
workable ideas substituted for them.
I'm taking a break --- I'll organize some things tonight, and
I'll write some more in the morning.
To close for tonight, I still think that something like
the suggestion of MD266-269 rshowalt
9/25/00 7:32am rshowalt
9/25/00 7:33am rshowalt
9/25/00 7:35am rshowalt
9/25/00 7:36am ought to be seriously considered, and that,
some way or other, we should see to it that the world survives.
With nuclear arrangments as they are, I'm afraid that it is
likely that the world will end.
We ought to fix that.
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