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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 09:19am Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2312
of 2316) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
-- and the US needs to respond, not just by words, though words
are important, but also by deeds -- to give a satisfactory answer to
such questions.
Friedman goes on to make another valid point:
" But then, the biggest mistake China's leaders
could make is to believe their own myths — that China represents
such a big, lucrative market the U.S. will always bend their way.
. . . . .
" You cannot have a normal relationship with an
individual or a country whose attitude is: When you are wrong you
must apologize, and when I am wrong you must apologize.
"But there are red lines of international law that China has
crossed, and the U.S.-China relationship can't be sustained without
maintaining both the bridges and the red lines. So friends of China
need to let China's leaders know that they too have mail — from
America — and they would be wise to read it.
The need for communication, and accomodations that make complex
cooperation possible, need to be recalled, both ways.
As that is considered, Almarst's question, and the reasons
and feelings behind it, ought to be carefully considered.
There are many reasons, well set out by Almarst on this thread,
why that question about substance, and not mere "public relations"
ought to be considered.
It would be beautiful if facts were such that Friedman's piece
could be considered totally right, totally beautiful, totally fit to
circumstances. It would be good to change circumstances so that
it becomes more so. That will take much conversation, and some
actions, too.
rshowalter
- 09:33am Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2313
of 2316) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
rshowalter
4/15/01 3:37pm
rshowalter
- 10:21am Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2314
of 2316) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
rshowalter
4/16/01 10:03am rshowalter
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rshowalter
- 11:07am Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2315
of 2316) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/17/world/17OKIN.html
Despite China, Okinawans Tire of U.S. Military by HOWARD
W. FRENCH
Much of the world is now, clearly, under US protection, and the
military cites the need to maintain this protection as a reason for
spy flights and other things.
Concerning the people being protected:
1. Does anyone have a clear sense, that could
be documented, about what fraction of the people involved feel
grateful for the protection, not in the past, but now and for the
future?
2. Does anyone have a clear sense, that could
be documented, about what fraction of the people involved feel the
need for the protection?
3. Does anyone have a clear sense of how many
political leaders and government officers, of the nations being
protected, feel the need for this protection, compared to those
who do not?
Perhaps the number feeling the need for protection is very large,
and perhaps they have good reasons to feel so. These are questions
of fact and interpretation subject to evidence.
The facts should be set beside our military actions and
expenditures. The protection we provide could be set against its
costs, and focused questions might be raised on whether the
protection -- the freedom from military risk, that justifies the
American presence might be provided in other ways.
If the American presence is only, or predominantly, in the
service of needs now past, or needs only felt by the United States
itself, that ought to be clear -- both inside and outside the United
States.
One might ask a related question ---
- How many people in the world feel "protected"
by nuclear weapons, in the hands of anyone?
The fraction of the human race grateful for nuclear weapons is
likely to be small indeed -- and that seems a fine reason to
eliminate them.
rshowalter
- 11:08am Apr 17, 2001 EST (#2316
of 2316) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
An important first step would be to renounce first use of them
(and, as an important consequence, stop threatening the threat of
first use of them).
An important next step, would be to reduce stockpiles from the
Mutually Assured World Destruction level -- to a much lower
Mutually Assured Deterrance level.
It would be better to achieve the deterrance that nation states
need without nuclear weapons, and it might not be beyond the wit of
man to achieve this.
But at least our military balances could be better arranged, and
more proportionate, to the needs at hand than they now are.
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