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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 11:13am Apr 13, 2001 EST (#2211
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Christians Against NATO Aggression - http://canauk.human-rights.org/
rshowalter
- 12:04pm Apr 13, 2001 EST (#2212
of 2215) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
With respect to rshowalter
4/12/01 12:24pm
my reasons for thinking dendritic spines can be destroyed in
resonance are set out in rshowalter
"How the Brain Works" 4/13/01 11:47am
rshowalter
- 12:50pm Apr 13, 2001 EST (#2213
of 2215) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
In this thread, Dawn Riley and I have argued, as carefully and
persuasively as we've known how to, that people should, and can,
find ways to make the world more peaceful, and especially can find
ways to reduce the magnitude of current nuclear risks so that the
world can be preserved.
We believe that, with some human insight and responsible conduct,
nuclear weapons can be effectively prohibited, in ways that make all
concerned safer, more secure, and more free in the ways that matter
to human beings.
A central part of the argument has been that, to make peace,
the past must be understood -- so that "everybody is reading off the
same page."
Different people and groups might feel very different about what
happened. But if they agree on the basic facts that are of mutual
interest, negotiations permitting complex cooperation are possible.
A core issue is apology -- and in complex, multiply articulated
circumstances, apologies may well be appropriate in both
directions .
I've set out a story, that I believe sets out essential truths
pretty clearly -- in a Guardian Talk thread I've referenced here
very often .. Psychwar, Casablanca, and Terror .
I believe references to these links my unify parts of the
argument that, I feel, would make much progress possible if they
were mutually understood.
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rshowalter
- 12:53pm Apr 13, 2001 EST (#2214
of 2215) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
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becq has two contradictory posts just above - one saying we can't
use first strikes, the next saying that we can, and can do so
advantageously, to avoid a few casualties.
Well, no American, after all these years, has ever actually made
a first strike, thank God. But we use the "option" of a first strike
routinely in our patterns of discussion, in our patterns of
deception, in the lies that we tell other countries when we threaten
them. We should come up with safer lies.
Ridiculous, outrageous lies can be very effective in
psychological warfare. They disorient. There's no response to their
absurdity.
In the movie Casablanca , Captain Renault, the corrupt prefect of
police, is ordered by a Nazi to shut RICK's down. He has no reason,
and he's told to find one. He finds a good one - good because it is
so absurd.
" I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED, to find gambling going
on here."
Well, Renault gambles at Ricks many nights, and all know it. In
this scene, Renault recieves some gambling winnings as he's
delivering his line. Others have no response to the absurdity.
We use threats of first strikes, or discussion of first strikes
in our systems of operations, to disorient minds. It is very
effective psychological warfare. A good deal of the history of the
Cold War turns on this psychological warfare. The Cold War is
over, and we should stop fighting it, and get rid of the dangerous
props we use for lies we've grown fond of.
We have plenty of other ways that we can threaten other nation
states.
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