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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 06:02am Apr 12, 2001 EST (#2175
of 2180) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Star Wars, and US nuclear policy, have been aberrations, that
have occurred because standared checks and balances in the US
political system were bypassed.
The rest of the United States systems is, and ought to be, an
important example (among a number) for the world to consider, and
respect, and consider emulating. In considering this, I believe that
Americans and everyone who must deal with Americans (and everyone
whose life is endangered by American actions and mistakes -- which
is everyone) ought to carefully consider the concerns about the
“military-industrial complex” set out in the FAREWELL ADDRESS of
President Dwight D. Eisenhower January 17, 1961. http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/ikefw.htm
and consider what has happened since. That consideration should
include consideration of facts, not denied, but often forgotten, set
out in Richard Rhodes DARK SUN: The Making of the Hydrogen
Bomb Simon & Schuster, 1995 rshowalter
3/22/01 11:48am I believe that, since Eisenhower's time, the
military industrial complex has run amok, and become corrupt and out
of balance in many ways, corrupting the United States and
endangering the world. It is in the interest of the whole world that
this be discussed.
More than discussed -- these facts have to be persuasively
established, in the minds of many people, and with many ways to
check provided, and many ways of questioning the facts provided, so
that these fact cease to be "somehow too weak" and become a
basis for effective action.
It is in the interest of the whole world, and emphatically in the
interest of the United States, which has so much to be proud of,
that this aberration be fixed.
rshowalter
- 07:31am Apr 12, 2001 EST (#2176
of 2180) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Essential facts about nuclear weapons need to be
discussed, and set forward, until they cease to be "somehow too
weak" and become "strong enough for action." rshowalter
2/11/01 4:41am
Many arguments against Star Wars have never been
successfully or clearly challenged, but instead have been simply
ignored. Some of these arguments are set out in Missile Defense
System Won't Work by David Wright and Theodore Postol May
11, 2000, the Boston Globe http://www.commondreams.org/views/051100-101.htm
For the survival of the world, for the causes of peace, and plain
dealing, and for very strong economic reasons, it is in the interest
of the international community to see that these points are
discussed to closure --- so that essential facts and logical
sequences are clear enough to have substantial, and for many
purposes, coercive force, unless these arguments can be
successfully challenged, in public, on the basis of evidence.
rshowalter
- 07:37am Apr 12, 2001 EST (#2177
of 2180) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The spy plane that China now has should provide a great deal of
evidence, multiply reinforced by large bodies of collaborating
detail, making clear how fraudulent many of the claims of "technical
feasibility" for missile defense have always been, and remain. There
are many other sources as well. Except for assertions of "trust us"
-- the administration, and the military industrial complex, has no
sufficient moral or logical foundation for what it has claimed, and
done, and the trouble and expense that it has caused in this matter
-- especially since the fall of the Soviet system.
rshowalter
- 07:42am Apr 12, 2001 EST (#2178
of 2180) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The possibility that many in the military-industrial complex are,
in this matter, collectively insane may be a good defense against
the apparent fraud (for some, but probably not all, of those
involved.) Large groups of people, in trusted positions, who talk
only to each other in the course of making certain judgements, can
be atonishingly wrong, in very hurtful ways, for long times. Groups
of people can be absolutely sure of ideas that are completely wrong
-- and do grave damage. The record of the medical profession has
many gruesome examples. The poem OUR FATHERS OF OLD by
Rudyard Kipling offers a vivid and imaginative, and
historically perceptive recounting of how such collective
aberrations have occured in the medical profession. rshowalter
3/26/01 8:54pm
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