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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI all over again?


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lunarchick - 11:03am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2040 of 2047)
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perhaps the guy was an anylitical pragmatist .. couldn't face the upcoming heat and opted out

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Kissenger - is said to be helping Bush with China ... the Republicans have two camps, the Christians who don't like the way China detains and harasses them Versus the Republica business faction who have investments in China. A field day for diplomats who are working overtime.

rshowalter - 11:15am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2041 of 2047) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

CIA Senior Analyst an Apparent Suicide, Police Say . . . . . . by ..Vernon Loeb and Tom Jackman . . . The Washington Post ....Friday, April 6, 2001; Page A19

Foul play is a possibility, and coverup, perhaps with defamatory and misleading inferences, must be expected.

But another possibility is that Rick E. Yannuzzi, the CIA's deputy national intelligence officer for strategic and nuclear programs, was duped into thinking he was acting rightly, found out the truth about what he and his colleagues and countrymen had done, and were doing, and decided that suicide was his best course, considering everything, including the risks to his family.

It is easy to imagine, from what little I know of the world he lived in, that this might well have been his best course.

He might also, under the circumstances here, have had a crisis of conscience, and been ordered to commit suicide, under circumstances where this was the best thing he could do for those he loved.

almarst-2001 - 11:18am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2042 of 2047)

Yannuzzi - sounds like Sephardi Jewish name.

rshowalter - 11:19am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2043 of 2047) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

lunarchick 4/6/01 11:03am

If only there were more Christians who were concerned with the immense moral issue of nuclear weapons, and their use as "negotiating tools" by the United States.

Some Christians, including some who head very Republican churches, do have some concerns http://www.wisc.edu/rshowalt/sermon.html

For myself, I don't see how a committed Christian can be indifferent to nuclear weapons. It should be a compelling duty to be against them, and for the preservation of life on the scale where nuclear weapons matter.

rshowalter - 11:26am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2044 of 2047) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

almarst-2001 4/6/01 10:53am Very troubling. The human rights violations of previous administrations stain the Repubilicans so badly that, if the truth were known, they might have no nominees at all, who had come up through the ranks, who could claim to be free of complicity to secret murder.

There's some coordination to suppress the truth about this. The Henry Kissenger matter is a notable example. Not long ago, the Encyclopedia Brittannica had a feature of the questions that have been raised about criminal behaivor by Kissenger and those in his shop - the leaders of Republican foreign policy.

Somehow, one can't get it from the Britannica site anymore. It had a number of most interesting, damning references to mass murderousness, and bad faith on the part of Kissinger and his subordinates. I do have a copy of those references.

rshowalter - 11:37am Apr 6, 2001 EST (#2045 of 2047) Delete Message
Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu

almarst-2001 4/6/01 10:35am

" On interdependence of ex-Soviet republics:

" It was developed under the firm assumption they will always stay together and over time, integrate more not less. The economy of scale as well as efficiency of specialization dictated such policy.

So now you face a problem in complex cooperation -- and Russia, and the countries that were former parts of the USSR -- have to find ways to make deals.

You'll have to find ways to do it -- the incentives for doing it are immense -- and it has to work for you, as you are not as we or anybody else might wish you to be.

And you have to work from where you are.

Truth is your only hope, and you're going to have to come up with some secularly redemptive solutions, because the circumstances here are too complicated for "justice."

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