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lchic
- 08:19pm Feb 19, 2002 EST (#11639
of 11662)
The Roman Catholic Church (RC) is an institution. The problem
with 'institutions' is that they lose track of the reason for their
existence.
Superficially the Church has the mission to lessen the gap
between the people and their perception of their god.
Institutions handle excessive budgets. There are always those who
want their piece of the cake!
As with the American Government. The military complex was
established in the early Fourties. The reason then was for America
to be effective in war. The bombing of Pearl Harbour was the signal
to enter the war. WWII ended. Later the cold war began. The military
machinery kept running and does to this day ..... $$$$$$$$ ...
It's historically unique for a major power to keep on churning
out excessive military product post war ... ususally investment
would be resumed within the domestic structure of a country.
So why hasn't this happened in the USA.
Interesting how mAzzA found the comment re 1947 'off topic' ...
when it had a MORAL and ETHICAL component .. with respect to the
Nazi philosophy!
So what's stopped the American Government - Congress from cutting
back on military spending and moving towards improved domestic
flows.
It's almost as if there is a S H A D O W administration
that if preventing the USA from resuming a normal economy devoted to
National Economic Functioning.
rshow55
- 08:26pm Feb 19, 2002 EST (#11640
of 11662)
There is . . . and it was carefully built . . . but that was long
ago, and it is now out of control.
. . . .
From almarst's reference:
"The role of the U.S. and British governments in
protecting and employing Nazi and fascist mass murderers will also
probably not be fully disclosed or incorporated into history books
in our lifetimes."
I hope it is. They were major contributors, especially in the
beginning, to the "shadow government."
But at the same time, the horrors of the gulag, are quite real,
too. There are horrors enough to go around.
We need to build a better future.
Part of that is making sure that the real security needs of many
or all peoples, definitely including the Americans, are well served
-- better served than today.
really out.
lchic
- 08:47pm Feb 19, 2002 EST (#11641
of 11662)
British Camp X-ray prisoners sue US government (Lycos
News)
Two Brits captured in Afghanistan and held in Cuba have sued
members of the Bush administration and the US military.
They have challenged the US President arguing they are entitled
to the same legal rights as American detainee John Walker Lindh.
The families of Shafiq Rasul and Asif Iqbal both from Tipton in
the West Midlands, say they are being unlawfully held
"incommunicado."
The prisoners are being held indefinitely with 300 others at Camp
X-ray.
Their families say British citizens should be treated with as
much respect as Mr Lindh - who has been given a lawyer and a trial
in a state court.
A lawyer for the British pair says the case "tests the power
of the federal government and the President of the US to hold
whomever he chooses simply because he does not like them."
He added: "We are asking that British citizens be treated with as
much respect as Americans."
President Bush ordered detainees at Camp X-ray be held and not
given protections as prisoners of war because he believes they are
dangerous Taliban and al Qaida fighters.
But lawyers say the situation "violates the US Constitution's
guarantee of due process, to which any foreign nationals are
entitled".
They accuse Mr Bush, his defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and
commanders running Camp X-ray of withholding the right to a lawyer
from the prisoners.
Lawyers also fear representation will be denied Camp X-ray
prisoners, even as they appear before a military tribunal with the
power to carry out the death penalty.
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An Aussie is a prisoner there too - so far the Aussie Government
have not stood-up for the guy. Seems as if Australia is the 51st US
State.
Interestingly this week the Aussie PM has been challenged re his
deliberate use of refugees as scapegoats in his recent election
campaign. A note from an Aussie to a 'letters' page said
"You can get to the bottom of a 'thief', but, you can never get
to the bottom of a 'liar'. "
Seems truth and lies are important to members of the general
public!
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