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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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gisterme
- 01:26am Feb 10, 2002 EST (#11408
of 11410)
rshow55
2/9/02 9:02am
"...DOD might make better decisions if they thought of options
in terms of "expected rates of return."..."
Lets think about the expected rate of return for missile
defense...
Several "layers" of defense are being developed to increase the
odds of successfully destroying ballistic missiles after they're
launched.
It's statistically not reasonable to expect 100% effectiveness
from any mechanical sytstem. So odds are increased both by
parallelism and sequential action. In the case of missile defense
there are three phases of flight for a ballistic missile. The boost
phase, midcourse phase and the re-entry phase. Because it may not be
possilble to be sure of destroying all the missiles of an attack in
one particular phase of the flight profile, necessarily
different methods are being developed to attack such missiles
in all phases of their flight. That's simply following the age-old
good advice that it's unwise to put all your eggs in one
basket.
If a number of missiles are launched simultaneously, it makes
sense to try to knock down as many as you can during the boost
phase, where debris from the destroyed missile would land fairly
close to the launch site. Even though you might not knock them all
down during their boost phase, every one you do get will
assure that that missile won't destroy a city.
What's a large city worth? A trillion dollars? If the WTC attack
had used a nuke instead of airplanes a trillion dollars in damage
doesn't seem unreasonable. And what about the people in the city?
So for each missile destroyed during the boost phase the payoff
is probably on the order of a trillion dollars. I don't know how
much has been spent on development of boost phase MD systems like
the ABL. However, if 100 billion dollars had been spent, that system
would only have to knock down one missile to pay for itself a
thousand times over.
Naturally you'd want to try to destroy any missiles that survived
the boost phase while they were in their next phase of flight. Each
missile destroyed during that midcourse phase would have a payoff on
the order of a trillion dollars. That's what the current interceptor
test program is about. I've heard estimates that it may cost as much
as $300 billion dollars. So, how many incoming missiles would it
have to destroy to pay for itself? Umm, let's see... just
one. If the three out of four successful test shots to date had
been the real thing, we'd have saved something like three
trillion dollars already, not to mention prevention of immense
human suffering.
I'm not sure just what's being done with MD systems to knock down
incoming warheads in the terminal reentry phase but I think there
may already exist some limited capability in that department.
Whatever the cost of that capability has been, I doubt that it's
anywhere close to what would be saved if it destroyed only one
incoming warhead.
So in terms of "return on expenditure" development of all
opportunities to destroy nuclear armed missiles is cheap compared to
not destroying them. And when an effective defense is
developed the likelyhood that missiles will be launched will be
greatly reduced. The optimal success of expenditures on such systems
would be that their existance resulted in no attack ever
being launched. The best possible return on the investment is
no trillion dollar cities destroyed.
All our current efforts seem like they have a pretty good
prospect of an excellent return on investment.
gisterme
- 01:41am Feb 10, 2002 EST (#11409
of 11410)
rshow55
2/9/02 12:11pm
"...Technically that's true -- with a beam focus that the
dialog has already ruled out, and that gisterme has stopped arguing
for..."
That's another one of your WHOPPERS, Robert. The focused beam is
made possible by the adaptive optics. That was pointed out just
yesterday. Stick to the truth!
The dialog has shown that the focused beam is possible and
there's no need to argue for what is obviously possible. You're just
in denial. Your entire post is an attempt at diversion from the
fundamentals; but nobody's buying it, Robert. Such falsehoods make
you seem corrupt. Showalter, you should try to take better
care of your own credibility,...because it's nearly non-existant
already.
lchic
- 06:57am Feb 10, 2002 EST (#11410
of 11410)
Took out the Anthony Hopkins - NIXON video today .. interesting
...
In one scene the young were protesting about vietnam ..
challenging Nixon to stop that civil war .. and he said it was
perpetuated by 'the system' ..
Seems once a 'system' starts running, there are few with the
talent and skills to contain it.
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