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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
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rshow55
- 07:00am Feb 5, 2002 EST (#11260
of 11295)
mazza9
2/3/02 2:11pm reads as follows:
"You call Gisterme a liar.
""intentionally deceptive" was your choice of
words.
"You should not make such outrageous statements
without proof. It's time for you to put up or ...."
LouMazza
Well, gisterme seems to be working pretty effectively to
help me make that case. Either that, or he and the people he gets
information from are too incompetent to be trusted spending public
funds.
Could it be that we're moving toward closure?
rshow55
- 08:28am Feb 5, 2002 EST (#11261
of 11295)
Right answers matter, and I'm taking some time to try to act in
the public interest. -- If people in power had the courage to look
straight at the right answers, on questions of fact, there would be
many opportunities for good.
Issues of trust and believing "good people" in the
sense of not checking their facts, have been the subject of this
board pretty often -- often central to the arguments of
gisterme and Mazza .
MD11206 rshow55
2/3/02 1:22pm quotes Enron Panel Finds Inflated Profits and
Few Controls by KURT EICHENWALD http://www.nytimes.com/2002/02/03/business/03ENRO.html
and the language on that fine article (part of a fine series!) is
worth looking at again. Connections between the "culture of
deception" at Enron , and deceptions in the missile defense
establishment are too close for comfort.
The issue of stability , and the dangers of instability,
have concerned me at many levels. Wrong answers, incorrect
assumptions, and deceptions lead very often to instability.
The things people have to do are unstable in a simple sense.
There are lots of ways for them to go wrong. For things to go right,
many actions have to work together, and in sequences, often
complicated ones. For that, information applied to cases has to fit
those cases.
People are clear that this applies to the jobs an auto mechanic
has to do. Mistakes are easy, and possible mistakes very many.
Success is hard. This applies to the conduct and maintenance of
military function, or alliances, or businesses, as well.
gisterme and Mazza work to deflect attention from
right answers on questions of plain fact, and act as if "good
people" can get around key facts. That isn't responsible behavior.
There should be an obligation to get right answers, on
matters of fact. MD11207 rshow55
2/3/02 1:29pm
rshow55
- 10:37am Feb 5, 2002 EST (#11262
of 11295)
Mazza , gisterme , would you like to ask "what
intentional deceptions?"
Would you like to comment on "intentional deceptions" of
my own, for balance?
mazza9
- 11:24am Feb 5, 2002 EST (#11263
of 11295) Louis Mazza
RShow55:
Sure. Gisterme and I keep bringing up Enron in this missile
defense forum because ...OOPS...You're the one who can't seem to
stay on point and make meaningful similes and analogies.
Your foil was foiled and now you don't know what to say. In the
movie GoldFinger, James Bond is shackled to a table and a laser beam
is slicing throught some gold foil and is moving towards his...we'll
you've probably seen the movie. The COIL laser on the ABL will do
that to a boost phase missile.
lchic: there is a health care regimen for your stuttering
LouMazza
lchic
- 03:04pm Feb 5, 2002 EST (#11264
of 11295)
Leach Therapy ... may be what you had in mind?
From Middle English leche, leachate, from Old English *lece,
muddy stream see
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