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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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mikejenn2
- 11:33pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10406
of 10657)
I checked out Armel7's news link. Putin looks like he's grieving
for the glory of the past but anticipating getting something nice.
sduluoz
- 07:43pm Dec 15, 2001 EST (#10407
of 10657)
Gazoga-
Jack Hitt wrote an article in the NYT pertaining to this point
back in early August (8/5 to be precise). He made the argument that
MD is part of a larger plan to weaponize space. Check out it out in
the archives: "The Next Battlefield May Be in Outer Space"
"gazoga - 05:54pm Dec 14, 2001 EST (#10405 of 10409)
This is a totally offensive move. Creating orbital weapons of
mass distruction. Best D is a good O?! Something else is going on
here. It is not being voiced, but there's too much capital being
spent on an unworkable plan. Ergo, it's a misdirection."
liberace3
- 03:10am Dec 16, 2001 EST (#10408
of 10657)
http://www.kalaschnikow.de/kalauk/txt/2001/eussner15.html
The Battle Against Eurasia
ONE CENTURY OF THE US GEO-STRATEGY IN THE OLD WORLD States are
captives of the geographic conditions in which they historically
emerge, evolve and exist. The "insularity" of the US power, which
has no land ways of communication with the Eurasian continent, the
world's richest storage of planetary resources determines the
outright expansionism of the US foreign policy.
From 1823 the "Monroe Doctrine" (which provided for the
interference of the US in the event of the newly independent states
of South America being threatened by Europe) became an ideological
tool of extending the US hegemony over the Western hemisphere. In
1895 the US State Secretary Richard Olney, referring to the Monroe
Doctrine, frankly stated that "on this (American) continent the US
is practically sovereign, and all it decrees becomes a law".
The US formulated the objective of becoming "practically
sovereign" also beyond the Western Hemisphere by widening the limits
of expansion as a top priority of its foreign policy, when the
country became a great power at the turn of the 19th and 20th
centuries. The spirit of the American "frontier" - the advance of
the first colonists from the coast deep into the mainland, seizing
new lands and exterminating the native population there - became the
spirit of the US foreign policy strategy - now on a global scale. As
Zb. Brzezinski emphasized when tracing the really existing lines of
"geo-strategic fronts" of a geopolitical struggle for domination
over Eurasia on the map of the world, the front line of the US
"defense" should always remain overseas.
Brzezinski wrote in his book "The Grand Chess Board: American
Primacy and Its Geostrategic Imperatives" in 1997 that from the
moment the continents started interacting, i. e. more or less over
the last five centuries, the center of world domination had been
located in Eurasia … However, in the final decade of the 20th
century a tectonic shift took place in the international relations.
A non-European state became the main arbiter of
domination-submission relations in Eurasia and the solely
domineering power in the world for the first time in the history.
The defeat and disintegration of the Soviet Union were the final
acts in the ascension of the state of the Western Hemisphere, the
US, to the role of the sole and truly global power.
Zb. Bjezinski's idea is simple: the shift of the "geographic axis
of history", or the "heartland" (terms used by H.D. Mackinder to
denote the expanse coinciding with the historical territory of
Russia, and later on - the USSR) from Eurasia to the American
continent should be considered as the result of a "tectonic shift" -
the collapse of the Eurasian superpower. However, the postulate is
false in its essential element. It proclaims a geostrategic
objective of the US elite, but omits the fact that there is a great
distance, far from being already overcome, between the objective and
today's reality.
To become a new "heartland" the US dramatically lacks the
essential -resources . Due to its extreme geographic eccentricity, a
hypothetical world with the American continent as its heartland
could only be a world of a "golden billion" forcing the remaining
five billions of the population of Earth into a social and economic
ghetto. The US elite is aware of this fact, yet it craves for
"practical sovereignty" on a global scale. This forces the US to
extend the action of the Monroe Doctrine over to the main continent
of the Eastern Hemisphere as the planetary geostrategic center.
An important element of the US political tradition, the
"frontier" has never been just an ordinary boundary in its European
meaning. This is not a line dividing the states, but a front line of
advancing movement to be pushed continuously outwards. This is an
unlimited expansion of force , the main vector of which is nowadays
the NATO eastward and south-e
lchic
- 05:04am Dec 16, 2001 EST (#10409
of 10657)
Russia: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/16/weekinreview/16TYLE.html
Why should Russia 'blink' if the USA moves from the 'stable' 1972
situation to a 'spacial' one?
Putin is moving the Russian Economy back into play.
Which of What above on the board was actually
checked-tested-worked .. is there much for Russia to lay awake
worring about?
If the US did the 'wrong-thing' by the world from space --
would there be a kneeJerk reaction at ground level that would
bring the US into line? Bush is moving the USA economy out of
touch ... watch as more foreign investment capital moves off-shore!
So who'll be the winner, the nepotistic-Child of a default agent
or THEE PresidentAgent who had the talent to get to the top? -- Odds
on the latter.
lchic
- 05:12am Dec 16, 2001 EST (#10410
of 10657)
In a nutshell - it says what? liberace3
12/16/01 3:10am
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