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Technology has always found its greatest consumer in a nation's
war and defense efforts. Since the last attempts at a "Star Wars"
defense system, has technology changed considerably enough to make
the latest Missile Defense initiatives more successful? Can such an
application of science be successful? Is a militarized space
inevitable, necessary or impossible?
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possumdag
- 06:22pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10164
of 10185) "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." Powell
The Statue of Liberty has made an offer to suckle Afghanistan at
the breast. A boney ribby kid, half smacked. Both terror and
terraine. Blocked in antiquity with teenage fears. Will she come
good again?
Would that GWalkerB invitation be extended to Palestine.
rshowalter
- 07:07pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10165
of 10185) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
So many reasonable, miraculous things are happening, that even
that might happen. But the Palestinians would have to make some
accomodations -- learn what "win-win" solutions are like.
I felt so good, after my nap, that I took my dog out to a nice
lake, walked five miles, and was offered soup by some camping Boy
Scouts. Had a little. Good stuff. First time out there in ages. Feel
relaxed. Beautiful fall day. Feel hopeful. Things may get better.
Felt good about this: Secretary Rumsfeld made some sensible
statements on television, it seemed to me. Said we couldn't defend
everything - - but had to be sure we could act in ways that deter.
Said something about proportionality. Sounded good to me.
Missiles aren't the only way to do act in defense, and to protect
national interests, and neither are bombers. You need other things,
and if other things are used well, maybe you don't want to use
missiles and bombers at all. Though maybe, of course, in a few
spots.
rshowalter
- 07:48pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10166
of 10185) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Before September 11, I was routinely setting out NYT articles on
Missile Defense for week periods - - something that I thought might
make the thread valuable to historians and scholars, since the topic
was one of historical interest.
My own postings are not very distinguished, but the articles that
are printed in The New York Times are both
distinguished and influential. Worth recording together, I believe.
The last of those listings of NYT articles was on September 9th,
and links to a discussion of the reason for these postings, and
weeks these listings covered. . . . MD8711 rshowalter
9/9/01 4:24pm
Since September 11th, I have not done this archival work on a
timely basis - - and one attempt to do so, that involved some
over-reaching, was removed, for reasons that may have been
appropriate.
Tomorrow, in the morning, I intend to do the following - - and
want Armel and the TIMES to know my intentions (intentions I
wont carry out if forbidden.)
I intend to post an incomplete, but still extensive listing of
NYT articles on Missile Defense since September 9th. With links
included to those articles published within the last week, but not
those published before.
Ill put the links for the last week in clickable form that would
take a user a little work to extract, as in the following example.
September 8, 2001 The Bush Merry-Go-Round Washington
is aflutter with speculation about the rising and falling fortunes
of President Bushs quartet of top national security advisors.
If I'm not to do this, could Armel please tell me so? If I am not
to post the links in a lasting form, can I post them so that they
can be available for a few hours, so organizations, if interested
organizations exist, might have them?
possumdag
- 09:00pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10167
of 10185) "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." Powell
"The US has to learn that its worst enemy is the US"
Philip Adams see
possumdag
- 09:08pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10168
of 10185) "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." Powell
A whistle blower re a pharmacutical company incident gets $150m
see,
so on the scale of comparative rank values one recent bounty seems
scant.
possumdag
- 09:29pm Oct 6, 2001 EST (#10169
of 10185) "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." Powell
.. there's at least one US face which can still appear on
television or the front page without generating a sense of
overkill, irritation or cultural invasion. Amid the hawks and
doves, the temperate and the hysterical, there's a consistently
acceptable voice. ..... Powell is one of a comparatively rare
species to get copious media attention: he's closer than many
might suppose to being apolitical. ... able to strike the right
tone in delicate, personal matters of that nature because he's not
timid, tentative, overbearing or self-important. ... There's a
metaphorical sign over Powell's public persona which, sort of,
says: "Bloke at work, doing the best he can." see
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