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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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possumdag
- 11:54pm Oct 1, 2001 EST (#10045
of 10055) Possumdag@excite.com
the UK's premier scientific organisation, the Royal Society,
had been asked to set up the scientific inquiry committee.
"Committees have previously been appointed on a purely ad hoc
basis. No effort was made to identify the best people,"
Fergson-Smith said. (re Checking)
vic.hernandez
- 06:36am Oct 2, 2001 EST (#10046
of 10055)
Re: Almarst #1023 and rshowalter # 1024
You have got to be kidding. To put your question back to you,
please explain the moral superiority of our opponents. The US may
have made mistakes in the past, but it has not made terror a sole
instrument of power projection.
I believe it was Mao who said that the guerilla fighter must be
like one of the fish in the school until it was time to strike. That
being the case, the other members of the school had better be united
in opposition or the predators win.
We have reached a time where you can no longer stand on the
sidelines and wring your hands about the actions of those that are
doing. By not acting in support of opposing those who would do this
type of thing, you support them by providing them camoflauge. Now is
the time for you to use some of that self-vaunted intellect of yours
to help find and punish the perpetrators, planners, and supporters
of actions like the September 11th attacks.
rshowalter
- 07:18am Oct 2, 2001 EST (#10047
of 10055)  Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You want help for that, call me on the telephone. I wouldn't be
surprised if I might be able to make a small contribution. All I
could do, of course, would be to make suggestions - that people who
knew more, and knew different things, and were differently
connected, would have to use.
rshowalter
- 07:20am Oct 2, 2001 EST (#10048
of 10055)  Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Your point about unity, as you express it, stinks. Not because it
is wrong in every way, but because, in many of the ways you
will want to use it, it is wrong and degrading in many
senses.
America has to be better than that, different from that in many
ways, and not that simple.
rshowalter
- 07:44am Oct 2, 2001 EST (#10049
of 10055)  Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
vic.hernandez
10/2/01 6:36am there is no contradiction between saying
that the United States has done some terrible things, that it should
fix , and saying that Bin Laden, and other terrorists should
be brought to justice.
Your "who is better than who -- an a simple linear scale" -- is
inhumanly simple -- and lets people justify horriffic actions.
On the posting below, connected to your questions - there are
tensions, but where are contradictions?
I don't see any.
The United States can and should defend itself, it can't do
everything right, and it can't do everything at once, but it has
done many things that are terrible, and as for Johnathan Edwards, I
think the Bush family and its associates have a lot to answer
for.
MD1022 rshowalter
3/15/01 10:16am ... MD1023 rshowalter
3/15/01 10:23am MD1024 rshowalter
3/15/01 10:35am ... MD1025 almarst-2001
3/15/01 12:10pm MD1026 almarst-2001
3/15/01 12:20pm ... MD1027 rshowalter
3/15/01 1:29pm MD1028 rshowalter
3/15/01 1:43pm ... MD1029 rshowalter
3/15/01 1:45pm
We need to be
WORTHY of the GOOD THINGS people associate with this flag - - not
just wave it. Or hide behind it. . . We should not use "patriotism"
- or an overblown interpretation of a relatively small threat,
considered in the scheme of things, to justify kinds of
simple-minded arrogance and cruelty of which we should be
ashamed.
possumdag
- 08:22am Oct 2, 2001 EST (#10050
of 10055) Possumdag@excite.com
Mao vic.hernandez
10/2/01 6:36am took down the middle class (and the economy) by
setting children against parents. A Mao power strategy.
George W Bush wheeled and dealed in oil with the 'Laden family,
such close contacts yet little to no 'awareness'.
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