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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:47pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1910
of 1927) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
You make a good case -- and you need to make it, systematically,
to all involved .
Also to make it to the United Nations.
The Serbians have done many things that make them unsympathetic
-- and whatever the numbers, not all of these have been
fabrications. The rapes, for example, happened, and were very ugly.
The history is important. Actions from now on are important.
I think it has to be true that a primary reason for maintaining
NATO, in the eyes of very many, is a longstanding, now traditional
distrust of Russia. After fifty years, an enormous amount of
propaganda on both sides, some true some not, and after the ugliness
of the Cold War (on both sides) these concerns won't just disappear.
But these concerns, outside the US, are much smaller than they've
been, and with the internet, and information usages, the chance of
real surprise attacks by conventional forces is far less than
before. And the advantages of agression, for any power, are less and
less, the more advanced societies become. The US seems to be finding
that agressiveness is very bad public relations, and expensive,
abroad.
To get to peace may take a lot of talking -- and one can say
"talk is cheap" -- but it is also often effective.
I don't understand, in detail, all the reasons why Russia is
widely percieved as "an enemy" -- but I am sure that you're trying
to change that, and that you intend to serve your own people, and
work for prosperity and peace.
You need to change the perceptions that now, much more than
anything else, stand in the way of peace. From that perspective,
much progress is being made.
More can come.
And if the reasons for conflict are dishonestly presented
economic reasons, MAKE THAT CASE.
rshowalter
- 12:52pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1911
of 1927) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I can't deny that there have been wrongs done to Russia, and that
some continue.
Nor can anyone deny many of the ugly things Solzheineitsyn and
others have documented -- reasons for people to be concerned about
Russia. Reasons that Russians themselves are very aware of.
You're moving towards the future, and working for peace. More
peaceful relations may happen more rapidly than you think, if the
intellectual basis of the powers opposed to you is as degenerate as
it seems to be.
Keep working toward peace, find ways to assure others that you
are not a dangerous agressor in the presence of a distrust that
is inescapable in military matters and keep at it.
The reasons for NATO, as it now stands, are getting weaker.
Especially with the current President of the US as its leader. Many
NATO member countries are coming nearer to this view.
In your two postings above you make arguments that ought to be
widely discussed.
- What is NATO for, anyway?
If the purpose is to create a perception and reality of comfort
with respect to Russia, how could that comfort, both in reality
and in perception, be achieved more sensibly, justly, and
cheaply?
That ought not to be a question impossible to answer, both "in
general" and in militarily satisfactory detail.
rshowalter
- 02:29pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1912
of 1927) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Security requires, among other things, the ablility to impose
costs rshowalter
3/12/01 8:52am but they should be calibrated costs. And no
nation state can trust without checking, when national security is
concerned. So openness is important for peace.
Berle's Laws of Power are important, and cannot be
escaped. Note Law #3 especially. rshowalter
3/12/01 10:02am Ideas, ideology, and questions of fact all count
here.
In setting out ideas, truth is not the only thing that matters --
the idea must be persuasive - not "somehow, too weak." rshowalter
3/15/01 3:35pm that means you have to keep at it, and that some
persuasive jobs must occur according to the laws of power - and take
some staffing.
lunarchick
- 03:27pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1913
of 1927) lunarchick@www.com
Alexander Lukashenko : Milosevic s arrest is "a disgrace"
From AFP 03apr01
03:20 (AEDT) MOSCOW: The arrest of former president Slobodan
Milosevic is a "disgrace" for Belgrade and creates "a bad
precedent", Belarus's Soviet-style leader Alexander Lukashenko said
today.
"You cannot betray your own citizen, especially a president, for
money. This was a mistake by the Yugoslav authorities," Lukashenko
told a press conference.
The United States had set a March 31 deadline for Belgrade to
show it was cooperating with the UN war crimes tribunal, which has
indicted Milosevic, in return for releasing $US50 million ($103.41
million) in aid and supporting International Monetary Fund and World
Bank programs for Belgrade.
Lukashenko, however, said his offer for Yugoslavia to become a
member of the Russia-Belarus union stands firm.
"Yugoslavia can still join the union without Milosevic. President
(Vojislav) Kostunica is also a patriot," he said.
Lukashenko was in Moscow for a ceremony marking the fifth
anniversary of the launch of an embryonic union between Russia and
Belarus.
lunarchick
- 03:29pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1914
of 1927) lunarchick@www.com
Alexander Lukashenko - never heard of the guy, but, wonder if his
concern is 'really for himself', for if he were upright and honest
he'd feel the same way as the citzens of Belgrade - time the man was
'checked'.
lunarchick
- 03:41pm Apr 2, 2001 EST (#1915
of 1927) lunarchick@www.com
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