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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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almarst-2001
- 07:55pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1883
of 1888)
rshowalt
4/1/01 7:39pm
The Rumsfeld's behavier can't be explained other then as sign of
veakness and frastration.
I am sure Putin's team understand phychology.
It seems the US administrations since Clinton follow the old
Russian irony: "The force does not need intelligence" (meaning - to
its own detriment).
almarst-2001
- 07:58pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1884
of 1888)
"Dosoyevski was a distinctly un-American figure."
Unfortunatly. He hold a lot of understanding of Russian
mentality, particularelly the sense of what is right and wrong.
rshowalt
- 08:05pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1885
of 1888)
We don't have to be alike. I appreciate Dosoyevski -- though not
as you would.
I may add that Dosoyevski held some terribly merciless, right
wing, reactionary views, and (the British author CP Snow speaks well
about this) did finite harm by doing so.
If we UNDERSTAND our differences (that does NOT mean trying to
eliminate them, on lots of essential aesthetic and cultural things)
then we can cooperate - technically and at emotional levels, too,
perfectly well.
I wasn't kidding when I suggest that Russian staffers talk to
American authors -- all of whom, perhaps, should read Dostoyevski
before the meeting as well --- to discuss differences, and do it
perceptively, without fighting.
Now, Russians and Americans, when they disagree, are too prone to
fight -- it scares both sides.
rshowalt
- 08:11pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1886
of 1888)
If fights happen, in the discussion of disagreements, it would be
nice to have them happen to very perceptive people, trying to learn
how to interact, with the stakes lower than they are in
military matters.
For practice, so that skills can accumulate to avoid problems
when the stakes are high, and everybody on both sides is
afraid.
rshowalt
- 08:16pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1887
of 1888)
On matters of aesthetics, disagreement may be essential -- but so
is understanding.
Aesthetics count, and count for very much, in negotiation
sequences of all kinds.
Americans and Russians have some cultural "mismatches" that
complicate cooperation between them, but, with more intellectual
understanding of the differences, these differences need not stand
in the way of cooperation -- and sympathy as well.
Also, each side needs to know more about when the other side is
lying, and when there is an honest misunderstanding. Both
sides are quite capable of deceptive practice. I don't believe
it would be difficult to come up with many examples of that, going
both ways.
rshowalt
- 08:24pm Apr 1, 2001 EST (#1888
of 1888)
It might also be good for Russians to actually see, at the level
where decisions and negotiations actually happen, a complex
political negotiation in a well run American institution - with the
complexities and ambivalences that are there. I've suggested one
involving my old partner, Steve Kline, at Condaleeza Rice's own
Stanford University -- and another one, which would also be most
informative to Russians, going on, with excellent documentation,
among people of good will (by American standards) at the University
of Wisconsin.
Studying either interaction, your people might think they were on
another planet. Our institutions are different. But you'd learn
something.
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