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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 12:07pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1693
of 1699) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
For some summaries, with linkages of the work that "lunarchick"
and I have doing, you might be interested in the discussion, in
Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/159
The first part of the thread, that connects to the movie
Casablanca , may interest some as well.
dirac_10
- 12:13pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1694
of 1699)
Well, are you my old pal Philip Henika or not? If not, I should
introduce you. You would have a fine chat.
rshowalter
- 12:20pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1695
of 1699) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I'm not, but I'd be grateful for the introduction !
almarst-2001
- 12:20pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1696
of 1699)
dirac_10
3/29/01 11:59am
"Nah, the Council on Foreign Relations and similar groups have
a lot of say on the international behavior of presidents. The
foreign policy is pretty independent of political party or man in
office. "
If true, how do you explain even such relatively trivial things
as a claims by Respublicans about a damage to US national securty
done by Clinton's deals with China?
It is hard to believe the US continued war in Vietnam for so long
because the public supported it. And I dought there was any
justification for the bombing of Serbia and Kosovo for
"humanitarian" reasons. It even did not got approved by Senate.
rshowalter
- 12:26pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1697
of 1699) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
To explain some of these things, in ways that work, will require
some dedicated staff, so that the facts can be put into a form that
fits US and European news usages.
Most times, the US does things pretty well, but conspiracy
arguments explain a lot, and are not well supported, with respect to
the Vietnam war, and much since.
As of now, if I may quote Brecht -- the truth is "somehow, too
weak."
There has to be some staff work, to make the truth strong
enough to stand up to the lies of those who would suppress it.
rshowalter
- 12:28pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1698
of 1699) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Quite apart from possible matters of guilt of himself and his
relatives and friends, George W. Bush's personal financial interest
in maintaining Star Wars and a big war machine is large.
Large rather directly through inheritance and other ties, may
well run in the tens, and perhaps the hundreds of millions of
dollars.
rshowalter
- 12:29pm Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1699
of 1699) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
It seems clear to me what the Queen of England would do, if she
saw the facts about this.
She'd shun the Bushes, and very many in their administration.
So would a lot of other people. And so they should.
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