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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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dirac_10
- 11:14am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1672
of 1680)
sumofallfears - 10:40am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1667 of 1671)
Why would the "North Koreans" "Do it" as you say?
Assuming that they will act rationally? I don't assume that they
will act rationally. And in a few years there will be many more
ruthless predatory dictators that will have the ability. I think it
is foolish to think they will all act rationally at all times. And
of course, there are a wealth of potential Stalin's in this world.
People that could care less about other humans. Perhaps as Saddam is
dying of cancer, he makes the "rational" decision to take all his
enemies with him. Last laugh kind of thing. He has proven that he
could care less about the Iraqi people.
and why would Iraq do it, in particular when did not do
so when its very nation was being taken to the cleaners by
allied forces.
He didn't do it then because we would have most certainly killed
him. In addition to the aforementioned "rational" deathbed getting
even, it is not safe to assume he and all the other ruthless
dictators will act rationally for all time.
Actually to say North Korea would utilize WMD for no reason
other then to attack America is actually quite
"ridiculous".
Yeah, "ridiculous" to not assume all dictators will act
rationally and will care about the harm to the human race.
Defend your thinking. Or is that too hard?
Pretty easy to defend if you don't have such a high opinion of
dictators, terrorists, and criminal orginizations.
rshowalter
- 11:14am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1673
of 1680) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
almarst-2001, you make a key point.
I have contacted a person in Ken P. Cohen's chain of command at
ExxonMobil, through proper channels, and sent him the contents of
1566, rshowalter
3/27/01 6:33am
and 1589 rshowalter
3/28/01 7:58am and some related information. People will look at
it, I think.
dirac_10
- 11:16am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1674
of 1680)
lunarchick - 10:41am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1668 of 1672)
Sounds like:
Diffusion Theory ...
data/knowledge moving backwards and forwards fueld by
greed(dollars).
Well, the ideological thing is gone. Nothing but greed left.
lunarchick
- 11:22am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1675
of 1680) lunarchick@www.com
On Whacko 'dictators' ... how do they arise ? How can ONE
luney-tune rise to the pinnacle of power .. rather than be directed
to the psychiatric department for necessary 'treatment' ?
Usually Chaos is their floatation mechanism. Through dis_order
they promote policies that are patriotic, wild, and unchecked. Once
they have power they lock out democratic discourse and 'trash' their
own people additional to making war on others.
dirac_10
- 11:24am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1676
of 1680)
almarst-2001 - 10:52am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1671 of 1674)
Dirac surelly missed the point that there is no defence
against someone irrational.
I assume they will be irrational. With enough of them running
around for enough time, you can count on it. You guys are the ones
that think the dictators will act rationally with their ICBMs.
And there many more ways to inflict the harm then lunch a
missile.
Well yes of course. But there are very solid reasons why the US
and Russia put all that money into them.
A missle can be launched with a push of a button. At any time.
A mason jar with Russian weaponized smallpox has to be sent here.
And generally speaking prepositioned. People have to be aware of the
plan. It is not safe to assume we would not find out. And if we did,
the result would be the same as the launch of the ICBMs.
lunarchick
- 11:26am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1677
of 1680) lunarchick@www.com
Missiles are anti clean air. The German Chancellor is putting
'clean air' at the TOP of his list as he meets (soon) with your
bushed 'top cockey' ( that's a parrot where i stand, from your
viewpoint - may be a lame_duck! )
almarst-2001
- 11:28am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1678
of 1680)
dirac_10
3/29/01 11:24am
It seems you clearly contradict yourself by trying to rationalise
the response of someone supposedly irrational.
Could you prevent the Oklahoma bombing for example?
dirac_10
- 11:29am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1679
of 1680)
rshowalter - 11:14am Mar 29, 2001 EST (#1673 of 1676)
You sure sound like my old pal Philip Hendrik I used to chat with
on another forum.
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