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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 02:18pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1612
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
The further expected shuffles regarding the development of the
Russian Economy will be of interest. Planning is
important - but not the 'old' style.
lunarchick
- 02:23pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1613
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
Germans feel that the USA MD plans will 'aggravate' their
relationship with Russia. Bush doesn't understand. Russia is
described, by annalyst, as a 'weakened', 'declining' country.
USA countries have tax breaks re exports. Talks are about
establishing the 'personal chemistry' Bush/Germany (Annalyst
Peter Wudolf Berlin -- Radio)
lunarchick
- 02:31pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1614
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
The Economist http://www.economist.com/world/index.cfm
(no link):
Mr Bush v the scientists The new administration has chosen to
favour medicine over physics and engineering. That may prove to be
unwise Mar 22nd 2001
lunarchick
- 02:36pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1615
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
BackgroundInfo Putin:Moscow:Muddle:March15
lunarchick
- 02:43pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1616
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
extract ""the handful of really reform-minded ministers has so
far proved to be disorganised and ineffective, other bits of the
Russian state are getting on with what they do best: looting and
bullying. The overlap between government and business remains large
and murky. The security services’ grip is strengthening. Grigory
Yavlinsky, leader of Yabloko, a tiny liberal party, says the Kremlin
is creating a “bureaucratic police state”.
The best news, in a way, is the resistance of vested interests to
the proposed reforms: it at least shows that they are seen as some
sort of threat. But to overcome that resistance will require a lot
of presidential clout—which is not apparent.
So far, Mr Putin has listened hard, but wavered when it comes to
decisions. Sometimes he favours his liberal advisers. The next
minute he is closeted with the hard men in uniform, or is being
swayed by the many denizens of the Kremlin left over from the
Yeltsin era. He spends an extraordinary amount of time talking to
foreign leaders: this year’s tally includes leading politicians or
government officials from Azerbaijan, Austria, Belarus, Britain,
Finland, Germany, Iran, Israel, Latvia, Moldova, NATO, the
Netherlands, Nigeria, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Korea, Ukraine and
Vietnam. But at home, rather than get involved in the current
kerfuffle, Mr Putin went on holiday, to a mountain resort in
Siberia. Aides said he was working on an important speech.
lunarchick
- 02:45pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1617
of 1623) lunarchick@www.com
Let's assume the speech was the re-shuffle.
almarst-2001
- 03:06pm Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1618
of 1623)
rshowalter
3/28/01 12:07pm
"May I ask again why nuclear disarmament, combined with
enhanced security for all nation states, should be impossible? "
The general Russan attitude toward the West and particularely the
US has being severely damaged due, in my view, to the following
factors:
- The Russians in general saw the dismanteling of the Warsaw
Pact, the unufication of Germany and evacuation of its military from
the Eastern Europe as acts of a great good-will and clear desire to
be integrated as equal into a modern World and Europe, to open the
new page in their history. They believed it will result in the great
benefits to their society and standard of living. They did not want
any more to be an Empire but an EQUAL and RESPECTABLE member of the
new peaceful World's community. Where the military power is no
longer needed and appreciated. Where no nation will try to dominate
or dictate. An Equal among Equals.
- The unprecedented in a peace-time decline in Russia's economy
and standard of living in a process of economic liberalization and
privatization inspired and insisted on by the West.
- The open disregard to Russian views on policy in Iraq and
particularely the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia against existing
international norms and laws while trying to expand to the countries
directly on the Russian borders.
Those factors destroyed the initial naive illusion of many
Russians looking for an altruistic West for the help. They don't
believe any more that it is in a West's interest to help Russia. And
many believe in the opposite.
They come to understand that the POWER is still (if not the only)
what counts and now see their nuclear arms as the only way to ensure
their dignity and respect.
They also realised that all the nations, PARTICULARELLY
DEMOCRATIC, must act STRICTLY for the BENEFIT of their VOTING
POPULATION. There is no place for ALTRUISM. That realisation makes
the NATO actions even more suspicious. The attempts by US to recrute
the Southern and Central Asian Respublics, the insistence on an
Caspian oil rutes outside Russia (even much more expensive) and
support for Chechen separatists is viewed as hostal acts to future
undermine and diminish the Russia.
I am not sure if there in Russia is any coherent vision on their
place internationally, but I can guarantee they will not villingly
accept the third-class citizenship in an US-dominated community. And
it seems that precisely the role envisioned for them by US. Why?
Because the Europe today much more needs the Russian energy supply
and market then US/NATO protection. It seems the US may rather be
interested in destabilising Russia. At least that position can't be
discounted.
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