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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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lunarchick
- 02:18am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1587
of 1593) lunarchick@www.com
He says that it costs money and takes enormous skill to guide
scientific papers through the peer review process and to get them
properly checked and edited.
http://www.Newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999552
lunarchick
- 02:23am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1588
of 1593) lunarchick@www.com
A MIR (mere) drop in the Ocean http://www.Newscientist.com/dailynews/news.jsp?id=ns9999549
rshowalter
- 07:58am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1589
of 1593) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Yesterday afternoon, as part of a letter that I hope may lead
to further discussion, I sent this:
"I don't believe anyone, on either the American side or the
Russian side, has anything remotely resembling an understanding of
the barriers to contact, communication and understanding that exist
between us.
"It is possible that a great many misunderstandings, not entirely
innocent, perhaps, on either side, but partly innocent on both
sides, have occurred, and persist. I have a particular bias -- in
the area of nuclear weapons these barriers could destroy us all.
"Certainly opportunities are lost. Looking at the situation from
the position of ExxonMobil exclusively, it would be in the interest
of the company if people in it knew how to talk to Russians, at
various levels, including informal levels, better than they can now
do. It might be worth many tens or hundreds of millions to them, and
the lack of it might cost the company similar or larger sums.
"I'll be making an effort to get this information conveyed to
ExxonMobil, if only as a reconnaisance to yeild information about
how barriers of this kind are constructed.
"But it is already clear that communication that should be direct
and easy is very difficult indeed, and in a world where NO ONE can
deal intellectually with the complexities of the sociotechnical
systems they face, this is sheer loss to us all.
rshowalter
- 07:59am Mar 28, 2001 EST (#1590
of 1593) Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
"I'd like a chance to discuss this more with you, because of your
expertise as a negotiator, and because you know Russia so well. I'd
also be grateful for a chance to talk to XXXXXXXXXXX -- both for his
advice, which I'd deeply value, and because he may know how to get
an email adress. He also might know whether this might interest Lee
Raymond (CEO of ExxonMobil)-- I think perhaps it might.
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"I've been working, with a XXXXXX, and some people we believe are
high ranking staff (perhaps XXXXX himself rshowalter
3/17/01 4:57pm ) to try to facilitate kinds of contacts that we
believe are absolutely essential for realistic business level
contact between our peoples -- and perhaps for the survival of the
world.
"I've tried to put some of this in a business context --- these
are sequential, but I post them as follows for emphasis - they
adress a problem Russia has with the rest of the world, and is
coming to appreciate. ( #1394-1406 )
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! ! ! ! ! ! AND ESPECIALLY #1409 rshowalter
3/23/01 7:10pm ! ! ! ! !
"As an exercise, not unrelated to the exercise I described with
respect to Cohen of ExxonMobil - I proposed some communicatons
between Russian staffers and american authors, about books, TO BUILD
NEGOTIATING SKILLS, KNOWLEDGES, AND XXXXXXXX THAT THE RUSSIANS NOW
LACK: #1411-1415 rshowalter
3/23/01 7:36pm
"If there would be a chance to talk to you some more about this
I'd be very grateful. If there would be a chance to talk to
XXXXXXXXXXX about this, I'd be very grateful.
Whether the letter of which this exerpt forms a part will bear
fruit I don't know, but if it does not, perhaps simlar initiatives
can be undertaken in different parts of the world's intricate and
complexly articulated and interconnected sociotechnical system.
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