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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 04:20pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1483
of 1490) 
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
We'd also have a clearer sense of how human beings are as social
animals, and things we have to be proud of, and things we have to
fear.
rshowalter
- 04:31pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1484
of 1490)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
Psychwarfare, Casablanca -- and terror http://talk.guardian.co.uk/WebX?14@@.ee7a163/0
especially the first fifty entries (24 typed pages), discusses the
nuclear terror as illustrated by Casablanca.
I personally believe that, if most english-reading Russians read
this, and saw Casablanca , they'd have an easier time making
peace with their own past, and going forward. And I also think that
MANY Americans should be asked, if the basics here are true. If
those basics are though to be untrue, they should be asked how they
are untrue in detail.
I think nationals of other nations in the NATO alliance, and
Japanese and Chinese nationals, might be interested, as well.
Better texts might well be constructable. But here is one to
consider.
rshowalter
- 04:32pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1485
of 1490)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I think the Queen of England, and many members of the Privy
Council, might be interested in the issues raised here, as well.
So might many clergymen, of all faiths.
lunarchick
- 04:33pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1486
of 1490)
lunarchick@www.com
How does 'the man in the street', that is, how do American Women
see the current actions and antics of their Government ... regarding
the 'hunt' for a rogue state, the 'verbage', dialogue and sentiments
of the 1950's. Has there been a Fifties Revival movement through
America .. beat poets, juke boxes and berets, with Arthur Miller ?
lunarchick
- 04:36pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1487
of 1490)
lunarchick@www.com
Do the clergy in the USA have 'influence' over the popular mind?
The pulpit of the 18th and 19th century would have lit the bushfires
of new ideas .. from whence do ideas that filter into the
popular-mind come today, how developed, fanned and moved towards
acceptance ?
rshowalter
- 04:44pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1488
of 1490)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
I don't think the "man on the street" thinks about these things
at all. The Fifties Revival movement is an interesting idea -- these
horrors largely involve stories from the fifties.
There are a lot of literary people, who have wide influence on
"the man in the street" who might be interested in these things.
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I have a thought experiment. It is, without doubt, an impossible
thing to suggest, but is useful to think about.
It is something that the Queen of England, (who I'm using here as
a sort of Patron Saint of the social graces) would know how to do
well.
Sometimes, in social situations, people find that they have to
violate "unwritten" or "largely uncodified" rules in ways that would
usually be thought dishonorable.
For good reasons, well explained, they can go ahead and do it,
and the act is not only tolerated, but often approved.
Suppose a senior member of the Privy Council , or the
United Nations , or a nation state, wished to raise an issue,
definitely but politely, to very many of the nationals of another
nation state.
In the internet age we now live in, the technical means are at
hand. The message could be sent, in the form of an apologetic,
forthright "spam".
Let me find a quote from Burgess Allison's book.
rshowalter
- 04:45pm Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1489
of 1490)
Robert Showalter
showalte@macc.wisc.edu
The clergy in the United States have plenty of influence -
perhaps as much influence as they ever did.
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