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Russian military leaders have expressed concern about US plans
for a national missile defense system. Will defense technology be
limited by possibilities for a strategic imbalance? Is this just SDI
all over again?
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rshowalter
- 10:11am Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1476
of 1478) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
In rshowalter
3/23/01 5:28pm I wrote:
"almarts_2001 I think the amount of good will that
is latent, close to the surface, wanting to come out, in American
and Europe is very great. Many -- and this is perhaps most true of
people in the more literary parts of our culture, would LOVE to
see a prosperous, happy, vibrant, RUSSIAN Russia - - not an
imitation of the US - but a different cuture - doing well, and
interfacing with other cultures. "
but there are problems. rshowalter
3/23/01 5:29pm rshowalter
3/23/01 5:30pm
"I'll speak of "expected rates of return" -- as in
compound rates of interest -- and talk about the key thing --
which is the total RISK DISCOUNT -- make Russia more reliable, and
you will RADICALLY shift its marketability upwards.
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rshowalter
- 10:16am Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1477
of 1478) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
All concerned need to learn much more about the nature of
deception, and the ubiquity of it in human affairs, so we can be
less indignant and more capable of complex competition and
cooperation that stays under control. rshowalter
3/24/01 12:14pm
A lot of information is needed for decision and
interaction -- and the only reasonable way to proceed, in the
overwhelming majority of cases, requires that the overwhelming
majority of communication happen "in clear."
rshowalter
- 10:24am Mar 25, 2001 EST (#1478
of 1478) Robert Showalter showalte@macc.wisc.edu
And lies and mistakes are dangerous because we are dealing
with systems far too complex for us to fully understand or predict.
We are ALL much too likely to trust our judgement, dealing with
sociotechnical systems that are THOUSANDS and MILLIONS of TIMES too
complicated for us to predict in detail.
I know something about coupling problems, and crosseffects --
believe me -- most sociotechnical systems, including ANY likely to
concern a political leader, have to be evaluated and changed by
successive stages of feedback, with plenty of care, and with
mistakes expected.
The hubris of the intelligence communities on both sides
wrenches my guts, and is terribly, terribly dangerous.
And expensive.
And, I'd like to say, childish, but usaully children don't make
fools of themselves in quite this sort of way.
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